SWF Conversion to Edit in Vegas

Opticus wrote on 7/12/2010, 5:39 PM
A client has given me two identical video files of a computer screen captured using Adobe screen capture software in SWF and F4V formats, I need to convert one of these to a format that Vegas can recognize. I can view the SWF file using IrfanView, it plays fine and is HDV resolution.

I've tried Super, ANVSoft, VSeven, SWF Toolbox and AVS Video Comverter, none of these seem able to maintain high quality, only AVS comes close, but it's still soft resolution compared to the original. I'd be better just to shoot off my computer monitor...

Anyone having better luck converting SWF or F4V files with excellent resolution? Ideally I'd want the file converted to an M2T or AVI...

Thanks for your help!
Cal

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musicvid10 wrote on 7/12/2010, 5:52 PM
Your experience using Super is surprising. Care to upload a sample somewhere and let us try?
Opticus wrote on 7/12/2010, 6:04 PM
Thanks, Musicvid. it's the client's proprietary material so I can't upload it. Maybe I'm setting Super incorrectly. If you are having good results with Super it should work for me too right? Would you like to suggest some settings? What format should I convert to for good resolution? My show in Vegas is in HDV.

Thanks!
Cal
musicvid10 wrote on 7/12/2010, 6:22 PM
Sorry, without a clip I wouldn't know where to start. Partly because Super is limited in which outputs will work depending on the source.
PerroneFord wrote on 7/12/2010, 7:14 PM
Flash is a one-way street on purpose. Very hard to get out of it. That said, I had to get flash converted for a client earlier this year. I could only find one decent program to do it. My office bought it but it's on my machine there. I'll check tomorrow and let you know.
Opticus wrote on 7/12/2010, 7:15 PM
OK. You've encouraged me to experiment some more with Super, I'll report back my results... Thanks - Cal
Opticus wrote on 7/12/2010, 7:16 PM
Thanks PerroneFord, your help is appreciated. -- Cal
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/12/2010, 7:54 PM
the "no other choice" option:
1) get a nice LCD screen
2) put your HD camera looking @ LCD screen
3) turn off all lights
4) hit "record" on your camera
5) play the flash thing on the screen.

Works when nothing else does.
PerroneFord wrote on 7/13/2010, 8:10 AM
This is the program I used to good effect:

http://www.swftoavi.net/

My source material wasn't great, so I don't know how well this will work on great material. But it's an option.
Opticus wrote on 7/13/2010, 2:23 PM
Thanks for the help everyone. I think I tried just about every conversion program out there.

I settled on AVS Video Converter 6 ($39 for a 1-year license). Converting the F4V to an uncompressed AVI, the resolution is about 95% of what I hoped for, which is close enough, even if I zoom in on a portion of the screen using Vegas. The video is of a computer program with a lot of lines and text, so it needs high resolution. Initially I resisted AVS because of their agressive online marketing, they were the last one I tested.

Another possible solution I found along the way is PCHand Screen Recorder ($49), it's pretty basic but it lets you crop a portion of your desktop (or select a window) and records it in realtime, then renders an AVI, with clean results.

The competition between all the different video formats, codecs and recording media speeds development of better products for all of us, but the vendors each try to be the "worldwide standard" by locking you in to their proprietary format. Given this paradigm, multi-format products like Vegas are the clear winners.

Thanks again!
Cal
farss wrote on 7/13/2010, 3:51 PM
I do have access to one solution that will always work, the Edirol VC-300HD scan converter. NOT something one would buy but if you can find one to rent it may solve your problem. You need to keep in mind that it will capture at your screen resolution, if you're running your monitor at 1920x1200 it might be the answer.

The underlying issue is that SWF is not just pixel based video. It can include vector based graphics and those elements are resolution independant as they're rasterized during playout. That means they're infinitately scalable which might explain why you're having problems with how it looks when you zoom in on something converted from SWF to rasterized video. The ideal solution would be to get the source project that created the SWF and work with that. Not for the faint hearted.

Bob.
Guy Bruner wrote on 7/14/2010, 2:46 PM
You might want to look into Flash Decompiler Trillix 4.2. I've used it to edit SWF files where I didn't have the original FLA and it works pretty well.
fldave wrote on 7/14/2010, 4:59 PM
Your client needs to understand that what they gave you to work with was potentially sub-par to begin with, and there is only so much you can do with it.

Doo Doo In = Doo Doo Out

Next time, charge extra if your clients give you compressed formats, and lower their final expectations of a quality product.

That said, I understand FRAPS is phenomenal in capturing screen activity?