SWF vs. FLV (Using On2 Flix v.8 and/or ?)

Soniclight wrote on 9/25/2009, 12:01 PM

I am aware that FLV is more versatile and doesn't have the problems that SWF can have such as buffering and occasional playback problems. But for some reason, when I do a side-by-side comparison of an identical file in both formats, SWF is always crisper, cleaner. I need quality due to the subtlety of some of my signature style which includes using Particleillusion effects.

So I've been using SWF exclusively though a bit reluctantly since I can't be as creative in terms of player options.

As to using On2 Flix 8, yes, it's a bit out-dated, and no, I can't afford the higher end progs for such files. I'm quite satisfied with what Flix does with SWF. I also reverted back to the original v.8 after an update for that version for I didn't like the new interface, etc.

On rendering in SWF (Flash 8 SWF) in Flix:

--- I usually keep source frame rate (NTSC), VBR/local playback with max bitrate of 448 and 44100 Hz/128 kBits for audio since it's music.

Perhaps someone can help me out on figure a way to solve this FLV vs. SWF difference, if realistic.
And/or maybe I'm just doing something wrong somewhere.

Thanks.

Comments

Soniclight wrote on 9/26/2009, 10:58 AM

Bump.

musicvid10 wrote on 9/26/2009, 11:06 AM

The first incarnation of FLV generally used h.263, admittedly not the perfect choice for clarity vs. compression.

The latest incarnation of Flash takes h.264 media, with really nice results. I would wait a bit for the free and third-party utilities to catch up to Adobe (as far as encoding h.264 to Flash), and try it again.

Marco. wrote on 9/26/2009, 11:21 AM

SWF and FLV are wrappers. It all depends on what compression you use inside the SWF and which one inside the FLV wrapper.

Marco

Soniclight wrote on 9/26/2009, 8:25 PM

OK, thanks to both of you. On2 Flix is not freeware but more the simple-version. And since Google bought out On2--which was the engine behind Adobe Flash for the last few years-- who know what's going to happen,

But as suggested, maybe I'll wait a bit on going FLV or try an FLV with low,, lossless or no-compression files and see what happens.

alltheseworlds wrote on 9/26/2009, 9:08 PM

Have you tried both the VP6E and VP6S options in FlixPro ? Maybe even the old MX version too ? They give radically different results depending on the input,

Soniclight wrote on 9/27/2009, 9:42 AM

I did something along those lines quite a while back but got confused or something about it and so decided to stick with v.8.