TC burn in of actual clip time

ScorpioProd wrote on 7/4/2007, 10:26 PM
I'm trying to do a TC window burn of my actual clip TC, but I'm not having much luck.

I thought that putting the TC burn in effect on the event would give me the local clip time, while putting the TC burn in effect on the track would give me the project time.

Well, that's not the case. Putting it on the track does give me the project time, but if I put the effect on an event, it gives me a clip time that starts at 0:00:00;00 for each clip!

That's not the clip's actual time code. I have 24 hours of video from a conference that I need to do TC burn ins of. I did a test of a 5 second piece, I have TC values of say a clip that starts at 15:00:00;00. If I drop the effect on that event, it reads 0:00:00;00 at the start of the clip.

How do I show the real clip TC???

As an experiment I captured a clip in Vegas 7, SpeedEDIT and WInDV. All three of them showed the correct local time code when I put them in SpeedEDIT and asked for it. But Vegas 7 doesn't see the actual clip TC for ANY of the three.

There must be a way, right?

Thanks.

Comments

PeterWright wrote on 7/4/2007, 10:34 PM
Locate the clip in Project Media - right click and select Media FX.

Now add Time code FX - it will pick up the original camera T/C.
Mahesh wrote on 7/5/2007, 12:56 AM
Scorpioprod,
Common sense dictates that's how it might / should work.
But it works as Peter says:)
Chienworks wrote on 7/5/2007, 3:04 AM
Actually, common sense tells me that if you add the timecode effect to an event on the timeline, then the timecode relates to the event, not to the clip. Remember that events don't correspond 1:1 with clips. You can split a clip into multiple pieces, shift the pieces around, trim them, speed them up, slow them down, etc. On the other hand, an event on the timeline has a definite start and stop, and the timecode counts from the start point to the stop point. Makes sense to me.

Adding the timecode to the clip in the media bin means that the timecode relates to the clip itself, and therefore the actual timecode shows up. This also seems very sensible.

Now, if adding the timecode to the event had the same behavior as adding it to the clip, how would you add a timecode that started at a 00:00:00;00 at the beginning of the event if that's what you wanted it to do?
Mahesh wrote on 7/5/2007, 7:18 AM
*****Now, if adding the timecode to the event had the same behavior as adding it to the clip, how would you add a timecode that started at a 00:00:00;00 at the beginning of the event if that's what you wanted it to do? *****
I must admit, I have never needed to add timecode to an event which started at 00:00. I would expect to see the same code (source code) as one I see in the trimmer. Similarly, I would expect to see the time line TC, if I add it to the output. I find adding source time code, individually, to all the clips in project media, very cumbersome.
I suppose I am from the old or very old school.
Edit:brackets in right places!
baysidebas wrote on 7/5/2007, 9:08 AM
Is that the old school of "can't be bothered to write a script to automate repetitive tasks?"
Grazie wrote on 7/5/2007, 9:18 AM
baysidebas, please tell me what you mean?

Regards,

Graham "Grazie" Bernard

Chienworks wrote on 7/5/2007, 11:01 AM
Remember that events aren't media. Events can contain media, or parts of media. But an event actually is a slice of the timeline, nothing more than that. With that in mind it might help one understand why adding something to the event could behave differently than adding something to the clip in the media pool.

Now, if you find it cumbersome adding an effect to each clip in the media pool, how would it be easier to add that effect to each event on the timeline? Considering that each clip can appear in a multitude of events, wouldn't it be at least as time consuming and possibly much more time consuming to do this in the events intead of in the media pool? Adding an effect to a clip affects every event that contains that clip. Adding it to the event affects only that one event.
jetdv wrote on 7/5/2007, 11:09 AM
Don't forget there's a couple of scripts for adding and removing that effect from ALL media in the Project Media. Three mouse clicks and you're done each direction (or add them to the toolbar for a SINGLE mouse click).
baysidebas wrote on 7/5/2007, 12:50 PM
Seems that the scripting chore has already been done for Mahesh.

OT: Edward, just purchased Excalibur. Sweet tool, incredible how powerful the scripting language can be when one knows his stuff.
ScorpioProd wrote on 7/5/2007, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the info.

Yeah, I can see the logic to it.

But, it worked perfect for clips captured in Vegas, but for some reason it did not add "real" TC to clips captured in WinDV or SpeedEDIT.

I guess "standard" metadata for embedded TC isn't really a standard?

I'm recapturing the clips in Vegas.