Version 22.0 build 93

You've left blank your User Profile. How about adding your computer hardware specs to your Signature like mine below.

That's the new build- you said you are comparing it to another version of VEGAS. The CGP should be faster than it was in VEGAS Pro 21 build 300 to 315 but may still be slower than VP 21.208 and older.

Hello,
After updating Vegas to version 22 I noticed that the color grading window does not work smoothly as before the update. Tell me if it works so slowly for you, or maybe you need to change something in the settings.

It's ridiculously slow on color page, it's slow on edit page, no problem with your hardware, but more interestingly what version of Vegas including build were you happy with performance?

Am I to understand that it's Vegas' fault and there's nothing I can do about it? What's the point of using a program that makes our work harder at every turn? Isn't it better to switch to da Vinci Resolve? It's just a waste of money that I invested in VP22

I don't really understand the video. It just keeps jumping in and out of the color grading panel. You don't even playback the footage with it applied.

Is the issue the time it takes to redraw the windows?

In general I'd color last after the edit is done and don't really need to see it played back at full quality to check if the colors look right. If I do I can do a shift M or shift b preview.
I don't jump back and forth between clips like this. Apply CGP at the media level (say a log to Rec transformation LUT) and then you can tweak a clip with CGP at the event level.

each of us has some habits, I like to go into CGP from time to time and tweak a given clip, which does not mean that at the end of the edit I do not colorize the whole project. I do not understand why I should not do it? After all, the program should work smoothly and not create problems at every step, because at the moment I have to focus on not entering certain functions because the program will start to lag. I want to focus on work, on smooth work. Is there any daVinci user here who can tell me if they have such problems?

@Former user wrote:

It's ridiculously slow on color page, it's slow on edit page, no problem with your hardware, but more interestingly what version of Vegas including build were you happy with performance?

Words have different meanings to different people. What does "ridiculously slow on color page" actually mean? How can you quantify it? I am using VP22 on the hardware listed in my Signature (and I suggest you include yours in your Signature since it isn't available in your blank user profile). I move the curves, and instant response. No lag or delay. The same with the color wheels. Instant. And this is on 4K footage.

Does the color panel have to load up? Yes. How long does that take? I guess that's a function of the computer hardware being used. For me, using the keyboard shortcut, a second maybe? The windows have to be redrawn, a very minor inconvenience.

@lukizap, like you, in the middle of a project, I might start working on some color grading. Sometimes out of curiosity, sometimes out of necessity. With your hardware, you should have no issues with using the Color Panel. I don't. But then, I am not working on your projects. Mine are relatively short, but all are 4K.

@Reyfox I think about 12fps on color page at 6K, it's not that I don't have enough cpu cores uses 20-30%, your CPU the 5950 is one of the greatest CPU's ever made, the CPU equivalent of the Gtx1080ti(hall of fame GPU). You will have higher clocks, and that matters when currently Vegas isn't doing great multi-threading with color page, and if that's not the reason it's another Vegas inefficiency that's not yet addressed, but will be as the engine overhaul continues.

Mam mniejszy procesor i jaki sens, skoro nie mogę płynnie pracować, a CGP wersja 22 to żart producentów. Płacisz pieniądze za coś, co nie działa w normalnych warunkach, zażądałbym zwrotu pieniędzy i poszedł do konkurencji. W poprzednich wersjach Vegas działało o wiele lepiej. w najnowszej wersji jest wiele błędów, które zniechęcają do pracy

I have a smaller processor and what makes sense, since I can't work smoothly and CGP version 22 is a joke from manufacturers. You pay money for something that doesn't work under normal conditions, I'd demand a refund and go to the competition. In previous versions of Vegas it worked much better. in the latest version there are many bugs that discourage work

@lukizap And you have the Ryzen 7950 the upgrade of the 5950, plus the very capable often recommended for Vegas GPU, the 12GB rtx3060, there's certainly no reason color grading should be slow on your computer, and I don't know why @Reyfox is trying to blame our hardware, it is slow currently, probably faster for a 13900K but that's a limitation of the software.

The slowdown could also be related to the current color grading memory leak, a known bug that did not previous exist.

@Former user you still have failed to provide any hardware information. Why?

I don't edit in 6K but 4K. Here is a screenshot of the playback on a 4K video with "wacky" color grading. Playback starts at about 17fps, then goes for the full 29.97fps. And yes, hardware can be the cause. As for the memory leak, I've had it in rendering, not with the color panel.

@lukizap I still don't get it. What is your issue? Like others, I've watched your video. Where is the problem? But, if you aren't happy, yes, get a refund and go to the competition. They aren't as bug free as you think, but you might be happier there. Many of us here own a competitive editing software, and I have the paid version, not the free one...

a czy jest darmowa wersja Vegas? Nie rozumiem, co masz na myśli, nie tylko ja narzekam na płynność oprogramowania, ale zdecydowana większość. fakt, że bronisz jednego 10-minutowego materiału tygodniowo jako hobby, ale pracując zawodowo i robiąc filmy powyżej 60 minut jest już gorszy.

...added.... it is my GPU that gets most of the utilization. Averaging 60% during playback with the CPU about 7%

@lukizap wrote:

a czy jest darmowa wersja Vegas? Nie rozumiem, co masz na myśli, nie tylko ja narzekam na płynność oprogramowania, ale zdecydowana większość. fakt, że bronisz jednego 10-minutowego materiału tygodniowo jako hobby, ale pracując zawodowo i robiąc filmy powyżej 60 minut jest już gorszy.

Google translate: "and is there a free version of Vegas? I don't understand what you mean, it's not just me who complains about the fluidity of the software, but the vast majority. the fact that you defend one 10-minute material a week as a hobby, but working professionally and making films over 60 minutes is already worse."

There is no free version of Vegas Pro. I was referring to the oft mentioned free version of another editing software. I am leaving this conversation since you seem to like attacking what people do without having any idea what they actually do. To try and belittle someone in your complaint doesn't work for me and where I come from. It doesn't matter if someone edits as a hobby or professionally.

Sorry for your problems and issues. I am leaving this conversation since you just want to "talk" down to people.

I need specific advice, I need to talk about the problem to solve it

I don't understand your specific problem. Is it the time it takes to open and close the color grading panel? Other people are complaining about fluid playback when the CGP is enabled but your video doesn't show playback.

What if you don't close it but click on different events with it open? That should be faster.

There aren't settings to change that affect the color grading panel except for having a GPU enabled in preferences/ video.

the panel opens for a long time, when I click to open it, it's as if the window is minimized for a second and then opened immediately. all sliders work with a delay, color circles too. generally it's hard to work because everything works with a delay

Thanks for clarifying. I did some tests adding CGP to a number of events here, playing it back and editing it but don't see a delay in drawing the window.

I have seen other reports of this and wonder what the cause could be.

I assume preferences/video has the RTX 3060 selected in GPU acceleration of video processing.
I assume that your dynamic ram preview value is at the default of 5% or similar.

Have you ever tried a reset of 22 to clear the cache? https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

yes, I have everything set up as you write. I even reinstalled vegas by manually deleting all folders and the registry, I will also reinstall windows, if that does not help I will simply end cooperation with vegas. I read somewhere a nice comment about the development of this software, that after taking over the software from Sony, the entire engine had to be changed because there were problems with it from the very beginning, and instead of doing that, Magix tries to improve and fix something that is not important instead of changing the entire engine. After 13 years of working with vegas I can confirm that Vegas was very problematic from the very beginning and caused a lot of problems with each subsequent version.

Try the reset in case you missed some folders, it does more than a reinstall. I wouldn't reinstall Windows yet and would suggest waiting for the first update to VEGAS Pro 22 in hopes it will improve issues.

I think the comment you read was how Sony decided to essentially cease development of VEGAS and put their resources into Catalyst in hopes that it would be modern and multiplatform (not just Windows). Magix then bought it and brought over many of the engineers though doesn't seem to have dedicated enough resources to development from what I can tell.

At this point VEGAS has gone through pretty massive changes with a greatly improved audio engine (VP 20) and now the beginning of a reworked video engine (from build 21.300 on with a new decoder to replace the one introduced with VP 15). They also seem to be incorporating technology from their other products- I don't know what took them so long to do this but it's good to see and one of their staff said VEGAS is their top priority.

So I wouldn't give up yet on VEGAS.

@Former user you still have failed to provide any hardware information. Why?

I don't edit in 6K but 4K. Here is a screenshot of the playback on a 4K video with "wacky" color grading. Playback starts at about 17fps, then goes for the full 29.97fps. And yes, hardware can be the cause. As for the memory leak, I've had it in rendering, not with the color panel.

 

@Reyfox Is that a 32bit project with 10bit 4K footage AND you're using version VP22b93?