Not much of change aside form a darker interface. I do however admit that the monochromatic icons work better when inverted and on a dark background.

Not much of change aside? How so? But what about the new plug-ins and transitions, media generators? The current is very outdated! All of them have version 1.0 from 90s. How about a new color correction tools? Improving compositing capabilities?

I wish there was an easier way to leverage the hardware accelerated encoders that are built-in to many Processors and GPU's. QuickSync support is nice, but its hidden under an option that implies Magix considers it to be deprecated. I hope they bring this up to VP 15 to be support as a feature instead of hidden as a legacy option. Also I have a much more powerful GPU than CPU, would be nice if Vegas could leverage the NEVC encoding support in most modern graphics card. (https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk)

Also really need to break the dependence on QuickTime. Despite news I read to the contrary, Vegas Pro 14 still Requires QuickTime to be installed to open any ".mov" file (e.g. anything recorded from my iPhone 6). As already discussed before, this is no longer supported by Apple and has known security vulnerabilities that open you up to being hacked.

Not much of change aside form a darker interface. I do however admit that the monochromatic icons work better when inverted and on a dark background.

Not much of change aside? How so? But what about the new plug-ins and transitions, media generators? The current is very outdated! All of them have version 1.0 from 90s. How about a new color correction tools? Improving compositing capabilities?

Because that is all I could see in your picture.

moving the deck chairs around on the titanic? perhaps a little exaggerated but... doesn't really matter how much you change the bodywork, if the engine's broken then there's not really much future for it.

having edited now for 20+ years on various nle's we've seemed to have reached a plateau. discounting endless new camera codecs and people's desire to have every one of them work directly within their nle, the rest seems to depend on trying to cram in every possible function known to production; from audio mixing through to rotoscoping... and this is especially so on prosumer nle's such as vegas. be everything to everyone.

i'm not sure that this works anymore. the software (unless written from the ground up) gets too complicated and prone to bugs when using old code base, and quite frankly less, rather than more, productive.

there are reasons why the industry favours avid and the like, and it's easy to understand once you've worked with them - they are somewhat limited in their capabilities, but what they can do they do do reliably.

if there is a future for vegas it must be in reliability and usability rather than in looks and bells and whistles...

I have to agree with usher, especially with the last sentence in his post. I'm still using Vegas Pro 13 because it's rock solid for me, an absolute necessity in our business. Most of the posts on this forum since the advent of Vegas 14 have been addressing usability issues and frankly I don't have time to deal with unreliability.

Tinkering with the interface -- dark on light, light on dark, etc., -- merely adds a layer of uncertainty to the product; it's what Microsoft does with each new release, making for a user nightmare.

Perhaps the time has come to rethink the entire package, to dump the old coding and bring the program into the 21st century. Retain the features that have made this such a great product in the past and bring this NLE up to the standards of a modern professional editing program. We've all been talking about what needs to be done for the past 10 years. Why not fix it finally, or call it quits?

Agreeing with Ushere and JackW above.

Ease of use is a great benefit of Vegas but until VP14 reaches an acceptable (for my work) level of stability & reliability I need to stick with VP13. So here are my future suggestions for Vegas.

VP14
Continue working on stability & reliability and dealing with the understandable issues created by transfer from Sony to Magix as well as Windows10 issues. I would like to see Magix ensure a stable ecosystem with 64 bit 'family products' such as Soundforge and Acid. If the economics of this involves a paid upgrade to VP14.5, so be it.

Only when this has been done is it time to consider VP15.

VP15

Firstly Magix and the engineering team for Vegas need to have some 5 year + development plan for Vegas. eg do we sell what we make (let the engineers come up with great stuff and we will attempt to sell it), or make what we sell (do an in-depth analysis of the market and current users regarding what they want and what they are prepared to pay for it then change the development direction accordingly).

Whichever direction is taken, Magix have to be prepared to invest. Vegas has slipped from being one of the accepted industry standard platforms to being seen more as a hobbyist's platform. This in turn makes institutional sales more difficult and reduces revenue. But perceptions aren't just driven by the quality of the product - marketing and promotion plays a large role in how a product is perceived. For instance, the outsider or new user would be forgiven for thinking that the majority of support is provided by volunteers on forums like this. When I worked in the IT industry, brand champions such as Nick and Set and others who have put so much time into the FAQs etc on this form would be highly valued and looked after - and I don't just mean slinging them a piece of free software every now and again.

If Vegas is to be perceived in the marketplace as a professional product, then the whole area of support needs to be addressed which would free up the aforementioned experts and power users for more advanced user interaction.

As to a VP15 platform, if there are legacy functions that slow down development, maybe this would be the time to ditch them. Rather than try to support every codex known to man or every aspect of screen capture etc., maybe it is time to look forward rather than back.

Maybe the best of third party products such as Vegasaur could be subsumed into the main product while encouraging these third party teams to further push the envelope.

I would like to see VP15 as a new starting point for a product that builds on the strengths of Vegas and eliminates or ditches the legacy weaknesses. As such it might even invite a slightly different name.

That's enough from me. I'm going back to wrestling with embedded projects (a strength, not a weakness btw).

The strength of Vegas is its versatility. I think we will see incremental improvements in core features and possible attempts to adapt to other platforms in some shape or form. If you're looking for major changes I think they'll come from plugins and bundling with other products. I'd like to see greater collaboration with companies like BorisFX so controls become more visual and intuitive in the Vegas interface as an example.

-- tom

+1 on an upgrade for Acid. Pretty hard to do Multimedia and original scopes without strong MIDI. At least make ACID 64 Bit. After trying a few things, Even the old Acid 7 PRO and 14 are a very strong set, but 64 bit would just make it that more powerful.

I would really like to MAGIX employees took part in this conversation. 

Because, It looks like in the SCS days, they never told to us whats going on, everything is held in such secrecy, as is the development of a new secret weapon. :)  For me filmmaking and video editing - It is a way of life. And I write this because I do not care! I grew up with Vegas, and its a big part of my work, my hobbies, my life.

I would like that so many people took part in this discussion as much as possible. Because if we all keep quiet and wait for, Vegas 15 can be the last.

I have 34K subscribers on youtube (vegas tutorials), and every day I see how people switch on the Adobe Premiere/Resolve. Because Vegas much obsolete, old problems are not solved, the available tools hardly improved.

If Vegas was developed as well as in the beginning, today it would have been an Pr/AE in one. No one likes Vegas, it's a fact. And those who work in Vegas Pro, becoming a cause for ridicule. For 10 years, we get all the same program. Think about it.

Fission product strategy, it is a big mistake and a great loss of time.  VMS 14, VMS 14 Platinum, VMS Suite, VEGAS Pro 14 Edit, VEGAS Pro 14, VEGAS Pro 14 Suite. What is this all for?  999 in one?

We need only one basic version of the well-tested and modern software. Sets of third-party plug-ins (VEGAS Pro 14 Suite),create more problems and make no stability in the program. You must work itself, rather than selling third-party plugins. You are developers or resellers?

Today we see only one thing, there is a desire to make money, but do not want to develop a product. I really want to, everything changed. If Vegas 15 will be the same, I give up. I'm sorry I did not mean to offend, just pent!

Sorry for my English / With respect to MAGIX / Vegas Team

I've been a user since version 3 and I'm currently on Vegas 13. I need to see GPU support and much better playback of 4K XAVC footage. I would also like to see long term level issues with various codecs fixed. The reality is that Vegas does not work well when trying to use exported footage in other programs. With some exceptions most codecs exported from Vegas end up with wrong black/white levels when imported into Premiere etc. Better color correction is also a must since many 3rd party plugins like Colorista do not work in Vegas and the built in tools are lacking. Even though it's still my preferred editing program much of the competition is looking better and better these days and Vegas just does not take advantage of my hardware.

Magix is in the software business and I for one think they are going to work on making Vegas a PRO level product again. Go on any forum for any program. Those who complain are more likely to voice their anger. I can only say this, buy what works for you and spending your time learning new software if your current software doesn't work for you. business have to balance expenditures and revenue streams, and now I am willing to use 14 for a while, maybe even several years as it is a good product. Those who like Resolve should go to a place like DVXuser and see what folks think about the Black Magic cameras before you think that is a firm who might be having trouble. It always looks greener on the other side of the fence until you get there.

I wish there was an easier way to leverage the hardware accelerated encoders that are built-in to many Processors and GPU's. QuickSync support is nice, but its hidden under an option that implies Magix considers it to be deprecated. I hope they bring this up to VP 15 to be support as a feature instead of hidden as a legacy option. Also I have a much more powerful GPU than CPU, would be nice if Vegas could leverage the NEVC encoding support in most modern graphics card. (https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk)

 

Also really need to break the dependence on QuickTime. Despite news I read to the contrary, Vegas Pro 14 still Requires QuickTime to be installed to open any ".mov" file (e.g. anything recorded from my iPhone 6). As already discussed before, this is no longer supported by Apple and has known security vulnerabilities that open you up to being hacked.

+1 on GPU usage!

I could not deal with Vegas's crashing and lack of modern day features (particularity color correction tools). I just purchased Adobe Premiere and am already impressed with the features. Vegas opted to become a prosumer package years ago while I opted to be a pro editor/cinematographer. In fairness I'll probably stop using FCPx as well.

I think the future of Vegas Pro should also be that they took all of the nice music creation features of Acid Pro and put it into Vegas Pro.

This would really give Magix and Sony Creative Software a head start on the competition.

Also a new darker UI should be great too.

I could not deal with Vegas's crashing and lack of modern day features (particularity color correction tools). I just purchased Adobe Premiere and am already impressed with the features. Vegas opted to become a prosumer package years ago while I opted to be a pro editor/cinematographer. In fairness I'll probably stop using FCPx as well.

The demographic for shooter/editors has changed. As far as PPro is concerned, I"m pretty much done with the NLE. Corrupt Project files, crashing when importing projects exported out of Vegas, I've lost hours trying to use it lately. At least with Vegas, I can work within the confines of the app - And to say it's a prosumer product is remiss. There are those like myself who use Vegas professionally - mine being multimedia storytelling, audio slideshows and small business profile videos.

I"m betting if Walter Murch were handed Vegas, after some initial learning how things work, could cut a film on it no problem. It's the editor, not the tool being used.