The mouse from heaven turned out to be a dud

Sebaz wrote on 12/13/2008, 8:15 PM
A few days ago I recommended here a mouse I had just gotten, the Logitech MX620. Since then I have discovered problems with this mouse so I have to post back here to un-recommend it.

Although the shape, the wheel and the extra button are great, the left and right button many times don't respond, and a couple of days ago, without changing anything in my Vista setup, it started to slow down to a stuttery crawl for no good reason, and I have to start moving it around fast for it to go back to normal. This is with the Logitech control panel and driver installed. I tried moving the receiver to another USB port and even attached it to an extension to move it to about two feet away from the mouse itself, but it's still the same. I even took to another PC with the same result.

Those of you using wireless mice, can you recommend one that works exactly as a wired mouse would, as long as the receiver is close to the mouse?

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seanfl wrote on 12/13/2008, 8:49 PM
I've been pleased with the Logitech VX Nano wireless mouse. It works well with my laptop, and have used it with the desktop as well. Even though the receiver is extremely small, it does a nice job for me. $40 or so at Costco and other merchants.


Sean
navydoc wrote on 12/13/2008, 9:13 PM
Are you using the batteries that came with the mouse? They may be old. Try using new batteries and see if that makes a difference.

Doc
Serena wrote on 12/13/2008, 9:17 PM
I have the Logitech MX Revolution (cordless) and that's very good. You should have a display of battery level (the Logitech thing down bottom-right of screen).
Sebaz wrote on 12/13/2008, 9:38 PM
Are you using the batteries that came with the mouse? They may be old. Try using new batteries and see if that makes a difference.

I am, but according to the Logitech control panel the batteries are full.


I have the Logitech MX Revolution (cordless) and that's very good.

That would be $70, far more than I'd be happy to spend in a mouse, but also the Revolution is like the MX620 big brother, so if this one has problems I'm weary of buying another Logitech, at least wireless.
Serena wrote on 12/13/2008, 9:53 PM
Well, you may be right. I've had Logitech wireless mice before and not had troubles with any of them. I'd think you've got a problem with a specific item rather than a general faulty design or construction. Bluetooth devices can experience interference from other devices.
UlfLaursen wrote on 12/13/2008, 10:01 PM
I have the Logitech MX Revolution (cordless) and that's very good

Me too. I have 3 of theese and love them.

/Ulf
fishbelt wrote on 12/13/2008, 10:15 PM
I use a logitech mx 510 and it's not wireless. At times I have a slow down also even stick once in a while. I do not believe it is the mouse but something else cauing this. I use it in silo making 3d figures and never have a problem in there and that is every demanding. I real like the performance for the most and better then any other I have used. I also have a Wacom pad and stopped using it because the logitech was so rock solid and fast. It sticks mostly for me opening and closing applictions and seem to hang there also.
craftech wrote on 12/14/2008, 4:34 AM
The receiver and transmitter probably have a limited range I would guess. If you have the PC tower under the desk try a USB hub on the desk and plug the receiver into that. That will bring the mouse and the receiver closer together. I think that will work.

John
Sebaz wrote on 12/14/2008, 8:57 AM
Bluetooth devices can experience interference from other devices.

This one is laser and wireless, but not bluetooth. I do have many other devices here, but not a lot of wireless ones save for the cell phone, remote controls (which are not being used when this happens) and that's pretty much it.

The receiver and transmitter probably have a limited range I would guess. If you have the PC tower under the desk try a USB hub on the desk and plug the receiver into that. That will bring the mouse and the receiver closer together. I think that will work.

I have the tower over my desk and the mouse on a tray/shelf that rolls down from under the desk. I tried everything from inserting the USB receiver in the back of the computer, on the front, and even using a USB extension cord that left the receiver 2 feet away from the mouse without anything in between.

Besides, I read many reviews and complaints from users online saying the same thing, that the buttons many times are not responsive, and that the movement slows down at times. Weird enough, the latter didn't happen to me in the first few days, however the non-responsive button was a problem with the first one I had, so I went and exchanged it for another one and it's the same thing. It's very frustrating to be working in Vegas and not having a fully responsive mouse. I went back to the wired Logitech Notebook Optical Mouse I've been using for years, which never misses a click and never slows down.

I do want an ergonomic mouse though, since recently I had a pinched nerve that left me in the hospital and while it wasn't totally related to my mouse, while I was in pain I could tell how much more painful it was to put my wrist in the almost horizontal position rather than the 35 degree position when you have an ergonomic mouse. I may try with the MX400, which is wired but a similar shape to the MX620, although missing some features.
eVoke wrote on 12/14/2008, 12:47 PM
I use the following -
On my older editing system I've been using the Logitech MX Revolution cordless laser mouse since it was launched without any problems.
On my new 64bit editing system I've been using the Logitech MX 1100 cordless laser mouse. I really like this one because it has an on the fly DPI [dots per inch] adjustment toggle switch/lever.
craftech wrote on 12/14/2008, 5:37 PM
Sebaz,

I am sure you have seen gel wrist rests for mice and keyboards, but Kensington has a Memory Foam Mouse Wrist Pillow that may help in conjunction with your optical mouse.

John
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 12/14/2008, 6:54 PM
Yep, i've got that on my mouse (mentioned above) and I find that very handy for changing what I'm doing from tight masking ( when I've had too much caffeine so that I can stay awake and reach my deadline, and I need to do some tight masking etc...).

Dave
jrazz wrote on 12/14/2008, 7:51 PM
I don't use wireless but have been using the Kensington Expert Mouse for years now and would not change to anything else (I don't need to change to anything else as it just works and has mappable keys).

It is the one that has the big ball in the middle with a scroll wheel around the ball and then that is surrounded by 4 buttons.

j razz
John_Cline wrote on 12/14/2008, 9:20 PM
I'm with j razz, there is the Kingston Expert Mouse and then there is everything else.
blink3times wrote on 12/15/2008, 3:14 AM
"I have the tower over my desk and the mouse on a tray/shelf that rolls down from under the desk."

I would suggest that THIS is your biggest problem. Years ago I had the same issues... aches and pains in the wrists after hours of operation. In discussing the situation with a Doctor I decided that both the keyboard and the mouse were too low and I had to bend the wrists in order to operate the computer, and there was no arm support either.

Bringing the keyboard/mouse to a higher position ON the desk was a bit of a pain getting used to, but the wrists are now straight and there is now arm support. I have pretty much removed wrist action from the equation all together and can operate all day with no issues. Not withstanding, because I'm sitting further up and not slouching over a low keyboard, my back hurts much less too.

I should also add that the click/free-wheeling behavior of the mouse wheel on the MX Revolution has been a great aid as well. In John's "New HDV render test" thread for example, which is now 290 posts long. I don't have to move the mouse to the scroll bar, or sit there and endlessly turn the scroll wheel. With the weighted free-wheeling action I can scroll from top to bottom with one fast spin of the wheel. Lees movement, and less work.
Sebaz wrote on 12/15/2008, 6:24 PM
Bringing the keyboard/mouse to a higher position ON the desk was a bit of a pain getting used to, but the wrists are now straight and there is now arm support. I have pretty much removed wrist action from the equation all together and can operate all day with no issues. Not withstanding, because I'm sitting further up and not slouching over a low keyboard, my back hurts much less too.

It all depends on the height of the keyboard and mouse compared to your wrists. If you are sitting too tall and the keyboard tray is too low then definitely it's going to hurt your wrists and arms. If it's too tall so that you have to raise your arms and still bend your wrists down to place them horizontally on the keyboard, I don't think that's too good either. To me the most comfortable position is with my lower arm horizontally, with my elbows on the arm rests. I have tried placing the keyboard and mouse over the desk before but that made my wrists tired very quickly.
MrEdit wrote on 12/17/2008, 8:33 AM
I've been using the logitech G6 wired laser mouse for a while. Fantastic. Yes it's corded but that's never been an issue for me and the response is flawless. No batteries either.