The Vanishing Vegas Black Magic Trick

jkrepner wrote on 7/1/2005, 7:21 AM

Vegas does a disappearing act as soon as I try and view an HD Black Magic clip. After some struggles--and with help from the forum, I got my system to view Black Magic HD files. But now when I try and view those files in Vegas, it crashes. No error message, nothing. Just vanishes from the desktop.

The files I received from the lab are AVI (23.97 FPS) but only play in Quick Time 6.5, 7, and Premiere Pro (albeit not anywhere near real-time) so that might have something to do with it.

Vegas allows me to drag the files onto the timeline, but crashes as soon as I click on the file to view. Same thing happens if I preview from Explorer tab or open in Trimmer. Like I said, they work in Premiere Pro. I tried to change preview settings, used different project templates, changed ram settings, and anything that I could think of. But there seems to be something more sinister at work.

Has anyone seen anything like this? Vegas 6.0b.

Thanks.

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apit34356 wrote on 7/1/2005, 9:02 AM

Unfortunely, yes and it has happen with QT7 files and a few other unique avi sizes. files load up, but dies instantly when played, no error or warnings. I suspect its the codec's killing vegas in its execution.

jkrepner wrote on 7/1/2005, 11:04 AM

Oh awesome! I get to use Premiere Pro then.

I wonder why Adobe can manage to deal with QT7 and unique AVIs and Vegas can't?

Thanks for the info.

busterkeaton wrote on 7/1/2005, 11:19 AM

Have you talked to Sony support?

jkrepner wrote on 7/1/2005, 12:12 PM

Honestly, no. It took them over 3 weeks to reply to my last issue (print to tape problem) and it's still not resolved. The reply I got was a generic form message "sorry for the delay... we are busy with the new release... please reinstall" sort of message.

Even if they can't fix a bug, you would at least like to get the feeling they are actually aware of it.

Not so good support from Sony - but I'll try it again.

ForumAdmin wrote on 7/1/2005, 3:15 PM

Please describe the files a little further- what exact BMD codec version, frame size, total file size etc.

rextilleon wrote on 7/1/2005, 6:00 PM

Dont feel bad--I just got a response ---and my query was emailed on May 22---I guess we have reached the point where the cliche, "better late then never" is now in play.

jkrepner wrote on 7/3/2005, 9:02 AM

ForumAdmin,

I have 5 clips and they range from 2 to 5 gigs each.
Video (according to Vegas):
1920x1080x20, 23.976 fps progressive, 00:00:15.25, BlackMagic 10 bit YUV Codec

As soon as I drag the event to the timeline, Vegas vanishses.

I also upgraded to SP2.

Thanks.

jkrepner wrote on 7/18/2005, 11:34 AM

UPDATE:

This might be of use to anyone that has problems playing back 1080p film-sourced footage with the Black Magic Codec -- I think:-) (I've also opened a trouble ticket with Sony support)

Basically, Vegas would crash as soon as I tried to view a BM HD clip. Today, I stumbled upon a workaround. It seems that Vegas DOES work with these files only after I open an old existing project first, then choose File>New Project (1080 60i in this case)

I think it also has something to do with the Preview window settings for Full or Auto and its size. If I open a 1080i project and with the preview window set relatively small, if I choose Auto, Vegas crashes. If I set it to Full, then it works okay. To test this, I changed the size of the preview window to very small, still crashes on Auto. However, if I maximize the preview window all of the way then choose auto, it's fine. However, if I change the size of the preview window when it's in the Auto mode, Vegas crashes. So this seems to be a problem of the preview window settings, its size, and the Full or Auto mode.

Fun!