This keeps getting worse

Sebaz wrote on 9/12/2008, 8:40 PM

So on top of all the aggravation caused by this joke of an update, after wasting hours trying different things, such as uninstalling the latest Nvidia drivers and installing the penultimate drivers, also trying with the drivers Microsoft included in Vista, and having countless crashes while rendering or simply scrubbing a tiny 2 minute timeline, I decided I had enough with this joke of an update, and decided to go back to 8.0b

So I uninstalled version c, cleaned the hard drive of any instances of Vegas, rebooted and installed version B. When I enter the serial number, and then the upgrade serial number, it connects to the server and it tells me "Unlocking Serial Not Qualified". I click Cancel and follow the link to customer support, which shows a bunch of questions and a link to Live Chat, which upon clicked on, tells me that live chat is only available Monday through Friday from 9 to 5 CDT, and closed on weekends. Same thing for phone support.

So now, on top of having wasted hours trying to make this trainwreck of an update work, I'm not even able to revert back to the previous version until Monday, so all the video editing I had planned for the weekend won't be possible, and good thing I don't have any deadline and losing money on this, because in that case I would be calling some lawyer.

It is pathetic the way Sony Creative Software treats its customers. First it delivers update after update filled with bugs, and the update that is supposed to save the day only makes it far worse, because as much as I complained about 8.0b, at least it didn't crash all the time, certainly I never crashed it just by scrubbing the timeline. One of the last few tests I made under 8.0c, just two AVCHD files and scrubbing the timeline for less than a minute, gave me a IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSOD, twice. Prerendering a small loop of 30 seconds to 1920x1080 30 Mbps Mpeg 2 gave me a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA BSOD, several times.
Not a single time I can recall having any of that with 8.0b. Same computer, same hardware, nothing overclocked, no weird junkware residing in memory.

8.0c will be remembered as the version of Vegas that made many people switched to Premiere, FCP or some other NLE.

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MMOODY wrote on 9/14/2008, 9:13 AM

Yep, just completed a MEMTEST. 100% success on the 4GB of G.Skill DDR2-800. I constantly watch the CPU, especially during rendering. At idle I run (watching via AiSuite from Asus) 96 degrees F at 1.31V and at rendering time run about 125-127 degrees F and vdroop down to about 1.27V. I never see a spike during or right before a crash.

I have an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 that keeps that pup cool and the Antec 900 case has so much airflow is crazy.

I've just ripped out every bit of Vegas and 3rd party plugin (except CoreAVC Pro 1.8), rebooting and will try a clean 8.0c install and see what happens.

MMOODY wrote on 9/14/2008, 10:57 AM

Ok, I've just done a clean install of 8.0c and here's what I ran into:

My original .veg contains two clips (about 18 seconds each) of 17Mbps AVCHD from an HF100 shot at 1080-60i. No editing except a fade in and fade out.

TEST #1
Render as Sony AVC with the AVCHD 1920x1080 NTSC template
About 25% into the render a msg box pops up and says an "unexpected error of unknown type occurred"... or something very similar. It's easily reproducible.

TEST #2
Render as MainConcept MPEG-2 with the HDV 1080-60i. Customized the frame size to 1920x1080, CBR to 15,000,000 and it renders out just fine (35 secs of footage took 16mins to render)

TEST #3
Render as MainConcept AVC/AAC with custom template. 1920x1080, progressive, CBR 15,000,000. Rendered just fine in 17:20.

So what's my point? Well, I just don't get why that Sony AVC and coresponding template keeps crashing.

I'm trying desparately to be able to edit footage with Vegas and render it back out in as close to the original format and quality as possible and then (here's the part that is killing me) push it back to the Canon HF100 so I can play it back via HDMI on my 52" Sammy LCD. Imagemixer 3 that comes with the camera sucks and crashes everytime I come near any file to add to the library and push to the Camera.

Any suggestions?