Threadripper 1950x@4.1ghz or 7960x@4.5ghz (delidded) for vegas pro 15?

hugh-mungus wrote on 12/2/2017, 2:48 AM

I can’t decide between a 7960x (delidded, but with warranty) and a 1950x. Price difference isn’t an issue, but if there is no significant difference between even a 4.5ghz oc 7960x and a 4.1ghz oc 1950x in vegas pro 15, I’m getting the cheaper cpu.

What is significant? Well, it has to be noticeable IRL, so probably (10-)15%+ I would say. I run windows 10 btw and am also getting a 1080 ti, which could be utilized for vegas.

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fr0sty wrote on 12/2/2017, 6:13 AM

I forgot the i9s went up to 32 threads as well... but from what I read, the threadripper still takes the crown at multithreaded apps, easily beating the best intel chip. single core performance is said to be better on the intel chip, but not enough to justify paying double. Vegas may run better on the intel chip at some stuff, but when it comes to encoding, I'm willing to bet the threadripper will come out on top, at least for codecs that utilize multicore well. I know things like cinema 4D, the threadripper will always win no matter what. Programs like that max out all cores when rendering, Vegas rarely does on my Ryzen 7 1800x.

Threadripper's chipset has up to 66 PCIE lanes (64 stock, motherboard manufacturers can add an additional 2 if they wish), I9's only has 44. AMD gives you the capability for more GPUs, M.2 hard drives, etc. to be added to your system.

If I had to pick, I'd go with AMD on this one. It seems like the all around better chip. Its only real drawback is that it isn't as power efficient as the i9s are.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Former user wrote on 12/2/2017, 6:49 AM

You're prob wasting your money as the cpu has to wait for gpu. On a slow i7 6700 from 2 years ago I only get 80% CPU. Although I only have a gtx1070 I can't imagine you'd get anything like 80%+ cpu with either of those CPU's but there's prob people with real world experience with fast cpu's and gpu's that can better advise you

OldSmoke wrote on 12/2/2017, 6:52 AM

As it stands, Vegas benefits more from CPU speed rather than core count. A 6 or 8 core CPU @ 5GHz would be my choice.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

hugh-mungus wrote on 12/2/2017, 8:19 AM

As it stands, Vegas benefits more from CPU speed rather than core count. A 6 or 8 core CPU @ 5GHz would be my choice.

Really? I thought that had changed with vegas pro 15, especially considering that a ryzen 1800x now renders over twice as fast compared to 14!

Anyhow, I'm getting a 16-core cpu anyway as I want to stream AND record at extremely high settings and some games use 8 cores already, so a few more is nice. Also, I tend to multitask quite a bit and can have multiple heavy programs open, and then also having to render means I could experience massive slowdowns, which would get incredibly annoying after a while.

Former user wrote on 12/2/2017, 8:33 AM

I don't believe anything you say. You're a pretender, and you're wasting everyone's time. You don't even know why vegas15 CAN render twice as fast. Nobody spending all this money would be hardware rendering in terrible quality which you could equally do with a $200 cpu and cheap GPU. I"m out.

hugh-mungus wrote on 12/2/2017, 8:40 AM

I don't believe anything you say. You're a pretender, and you're wasting everyone's time. You don't even know why vegas15 CAN render twice as fast. Nobody spending all this money would be hardware rendering in terrible quality which you could equally do with a $200 cpu and cheap GPU. I"m out.

Never used anything like vegas pro 15 before, so no, I have no clue. I also had to look up why threadripper is bad for davinci (turns out it's great, unless you had bad lighting in your video and need to fix the noise).

 

NickHope wrote on 12/2/2017, 9:03 AM

@Former user Your personal criticism was unjustified and a breach of community rule #1. If you wish to disagree with a comment, please do it respectfully.

OldSmoke wrote on 12/3/2017, 7:27 AM

As it stands, Vegas benefits more from CPU speed rather than core count. A 6 or 8 core CPU @ 5GHz would be my choice.

Really? I thought that had changed with vegas pro 15, especially considering that a ryzen 1800x now renders over twice as fast compared to 14!

Anyhow, I'm getting a 16-core cpu anyway as I want to stream AND record at extremely high settings and some games use 8 cores already, so a few more is nice. Also, I tend to multitask quite a bit and can have multiple heavy programs open, and then also having to render means I could experience massive slowdowns, which would get incredibly annoying after a while.

Your initial question was solely related to Vegas Pro and I answered it accordingly. The only reason you see faster render times is because VP15 now supports NVENC and QSV, has nothing todo with the CPU. Threadripper nor a HEDT Intel CPU support QSV.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

hugh-mungus wrote on 12/3/2017, 2:30 PM

As it stands, Vegas benefits more from CPU speed rather than core count. A 6 or 8 core CPU @ 5GHz would be my choice.

Really? I thought that had changed with vegas pro 15, especially considering that a ryzen 1800x now renders over twice as fast compared to 14!

Anyhow, I'm getting a 16-core cpu anyway as I want to stream AND record at extremely high settings and some games use 8 cores already, so a few more is nice. Also, I tend to multitask quite a bit and can have multiple heavy programs open, and then also having to render means I could experience massive slowdowns, which would get incredibly annoying after a while.

Your initial question was solely related to Vegas Pro and I answered it accordingly. The only reason you see faster render times is because VP15 now supports NVENC and QSV, has nothing todo with the CPU. Threadripper nor a HEDT Intel CPU support QSV.

Thanks. Suppose slylake-x is better than threadripper then since singlecore (oc-ed) performance is significantly higher, although I probably shouldn't bother with anything above a 7920x then, even for recording+streaming while gaming.