Time Out Error, DVD+R

Kerostasis wrote on 4/13/2005, 7:30 AM
Ok, I have a two-part problem.

1st--DVDA2 used to work just fine for me. But recently whenever I burn a DVD, it burns the lead in, the tracks, and then the leadout to approximately 98%--and then stops. After waiting a few minutes, it ejects the disc with an "Operation Timed Out" error message, and the DVD is now useless.

However, from reading some of the older topics in this forum, I might know why that is. It stopped working somewhere around the time I switched from using DVD-R to DVD+R discs. Is DVDA2 incompatible with DVD+R format or something? I will go test this by purchasing some more DVD-Rs.

2nd part--Some of the discs I make function correctly on normal DVD players, and some only play on computer DVD drives. I'm not quite sure what the difference is, but since DVDA2 stopped burning correctly, I've been using it to "prepare" files, and then burning them with an external burner program. If I can solve problem 1 above (by using DVD-R media) and return to using DVDA2s burner, will that solve this problem too? Or do I need to look somewhere else for a solution?

Comments

ScottW wrote on 4/13/2005, 7:43 AM
DVDA is notoriously bad at being able to burn correctly in all possible situations, so it could well be the +R media that's causing the problem. The other possibility is that you simply got some bad media (though this seems less likely if you were able to burn the same media with different software). Most folks that have problems burning with DVDA usually switch to some other burning software such as Nero or CopyToDVD.

Playability on set top players is going to sometimes be a roll of the dice, especially if the player is more than 3 years old - the most common problem I've encountered is the booktype on the DVD, since frequently older players are looking for a booktype of DVD-ROM and won't play anything with a booktype of DVD-R or DVD+R. I've also found that burning a DVD+R with a booktype setting of DVD-ROM has worked in every case where a customer reported a problem playing a DVD we burned for them. This is one nice thing about Nero, in that if the burner supports it, Nero will change the booktype setting when burning +R if you ask it too.

--Scott
Kerostasis wrote on 4/13/2005, 8:12 AM
Well, I bought some DVD-Rs, and they do in fact solve DVDA2s burning problem. I'm going to propose then that DVDA2 is simply incompatible with DVD+R format.

Incidentally, you can't use the search feature to search for DVD+R either here or in the tech support area, because the "+" is treated as a search modifier instead of a search term.

Now I just have to find a non-computer DVD player and see if solving problem 1 also solved problem 2...

Oh, and thanks for the quick reply.
bStro wrote on 4/13/2005, 8:33 AM
I'm going to propose then that DVDA2 is simply incompatible with DVD+R format.

With all due respect, your proposal is denied. ;-) Lots of people use DVD+R media with DVDA, including myself. Some have been using DVD+R since DVDA 1.0, although I personally was unable to until 2.0.

The problems that Scott mentions happen all across the board, though -- some people have trouble with +R media but not -R media. Some have trouble with -R but not +R. For some people, one brand of a type of media works, but another brand of the same time doesn't work. It's a toss-up, really.

Rob
Kerostasis wrote on 4/14/2005, 9:24 AM
Ok, proposal withdrawn then. So much for the easy answer. I guess that just means DVDA2 is an annoying piece of software to work with, as Scott said.

But anyway, in my particular case switching to DVD-R solved both my problems, so that's it for me.
Cunhambebe wrote on 6/16/2005, 12:40 PM
Just testing DVDA 3.0. I've noticed the same problem.
I bought a DVD around here that didn't have subs. I wanted to make some subs so I used a series of applications to let me do so.
- DVD Decrypter for backup;
- TMPGEnc to de-multiplex VOBs and then multiplex m2v to mpg2;
- DVDA 2.0 to make the subs;
- DVD Shrink to backup the result.

I had burned the folder before with DVDA2 and the DVD was absolutely perfect. Since some subs had errors, I fixed whatever I wanted and then, after the backup, I burned it this time with DVDA 3.0. Right at the beginning of the recording process DVDA 3.0 started to show some bugs:
1. There was warning sign telling there were missing files in the folder VIDEO_TS.VOB (???????????) - this was very weird;
2. At the end of the process as the application was writting the lead-out section, DVDA froze and I had to reboot (despite the fact the recorded DVD was OK). I burned the same disc again (it is a DVD+RW) and I had the same problem, this time, as DVDA was writting the lead-out, the driver opened all of a sudden and a warning screen sayed the burn processes had been completed successfuly.
This is very weird. Is this a bug or what???? Guess I should have kept my DVDA 2.0
ro_max wrote on 6/16/2005, 1:18 PM
When DVDA writes the lead-out, different things may happen. It may seem to freeze (although it does not really), the lead-out may be written very quickly. I wouldn't worry about it, as long as DVDA finally reports that the burn was successful. The box showing progress also clearly states that writting the lead-out may take several minutes, so don't give up, if the progress bar does not seem to move for a couple of minutes.
Cunhambebe wrote on 6/16/2005, 2:05 PM
Thanks, but the green light in my DVD driver stopped and this couple of minutes were more than 4 minutes...I may try DVDA 3.0a
ro_max wrote on 6/17/2005, 6:32 AM
I can't see any light on my drives because they are mounted behind a flip-down cover. I simply wait until DVDA ejects the DVD.

The problem you experience could also be media and/or burner related. Or it could be a firmware of compatability issue.
jimingo wrote on 6/18/2005, 5:35 PM
Scott, I noticed that when burning a disk with nero, it changed my booktype to dvd-rom without me asking. I wasn't sure what that meant, but my dvd-player played it back fine. When burning with a booktype of dvd-rom, is the dvd more compatible? And can this be done with DVD-Rs too?

Thanks
-Jim