TheHappyFriar wrote on 11/16/2013, 1:04 PM
Can I buy your 11 for $25?
VMP wrote on 11/16/2013, 1:38 PM
Maybe you should try version 12 or 9 which is quite stable here.
TheRhino wrote on 11/16/2013, 2:20 PM
The last release of 12 is VERY stable & we push our systems very hard. (We routinely render (2) VEGs in the background while editing (1) in the foreground all while burning (2) Blu-rays from ISOs!)

Our Experience:
V9 32 was fine, but renders were slower...
V10e 64 occasionally had black frames - even if we did not background render...
V11 64 was totally unstable & early versions produced black frames...
Latest V12 release = no problems & faster renders with GTX 570 GPU

FCP & PPro have their issues too. IMO I can always work-around my Vegas problems much faster than FCP & PPro. Vegas is more sensitive if there is an error in the source video code so I sometimes convert offending clips to a less compressed format before reloading them into Vegas... This solves 99% of crashes in all Vegas versions... Can't do this so easily with other NLEs...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

vicmilt wrote on 11/16/2013, 3:03 PM
Also agree latest build of V12 working quite well.
AND v11 was difficult at times.
willqen wrote on 11/16/2013, 6:00 PM
Vegas Video;

Even if you don't want our help perhaps your system specs and a listing of your problems could help someone else with their own search for solutions.

You've been a member for a long time, and you haven't posted your system specs ... ???

mdindestin wrote on 11/16/2013, 6:09 PM
I shouldn't curse myself, but I'm running the final version of 11 with no problems.

Even so, I'll stop and save several versions of each project so I never lose more than a few minutes of editing.
Steve Mann wrote on 11/16/2013, 9:40 PM
I'll give you $35
Geoff_Wood wrote on 11/16/2013, 11:58 PM

Are you including the current version of Vegas in your 'search for a new NLE" ?

Download the free demo here:

Can you be sure you won't have similar problems with other NLEs, and/or there may be something else broken in your system ? I guess the other NLEs you may consider have demo versions too.

ushere wrote on 11/17/2013, 12:45 AM
been there, done that - back home with vegas ;-)

it really doesn't matter what nle you work with - they all have their bugs, idiosyncrasies, anomalies, and last but not least, seemingly indifferent support when they go belly up on your most important project.

my fall back position would be edius, but 12 is doing rather well at the moment - let's hope it stays that way ;-)
set wrote on 11/17/2013, 12:57 AM
I'm agree with everyone here.

Before VegasPro 12 release, I only use VegasPro 11 for rendering, but still had to keep all editing in 10th version.
But in VegasPro 12, especially after the built #486 is available, everything is so stable.

I know you are frustrated with all crash and crash and crashes, and I know how that feels, and sometimes I also worried if I had to be stranded in 10th, just like a few FCP users who can't go to X, and keep doing in 7...
Try VP12 first...

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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz   2.90 GHz
Video Card1: Intel UHD Graphics 630 (Driver
Video Card2: AMD Radeon RX470 4GB VRAM (Driver Version / 21.Q4.Dec3 / 30.0.14011,2006)
RAM: 32.0 GB
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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 8750H CPU @2.20GHz 2.21 GHz
Video Card 1: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Driver
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 VRAM (Driver Version 472.84)
OS: Win10 Home 64-bit Version 20H2 OS Build 19042.1415
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JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/17/2013, 8:51 AM
If you are using Vegas Pro 11.0 you owe it to yourself to download the 30-day free trial of Vegas Pro 12.0. I found Vegas Pro 11.0 to be unstable and I did most of my production work in 10 until Vegas Pro 12.0 came out. So if Vegas Pro 11.0 is your only experience, you really gotta take a look at 12. It's much more stable.

FPP wrote on 11/20/2013, 10:54 AM
Many of us here have had that "I give up moment" with their NLE, but no matter where you go from Sony Vegas Pro, you are going to have to start a new relationship with your new software.
All the blood, sweat and tears that I went through with VP12 makes this software my b@#ch now.. I can make her do anything I want now.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 11/20/2013, 1:28 PM
I can make her do anything I want now.

I want to see the oil changed on the car. :)