titles and text to protype titler?

yugo-hughes wrote on 1/9/2025, 10:04 AM

is there a way to convert all my titles and text to the protype titler? using a script say i had a preset for pro type titler and i could just convert all the titles and text to protype titler this is a small part of a larger script im trying to make to automate subtitle animations and effects for vegas i cant find a better way to automate text without masking by hand and i want the script to count the characters to decide where the slider for the word selection goes but im going to far into the script idea i just need to convert the text first if anyone has discord and would like to talk about it further i want to make this for ppl to use it could become a main feature for vegas in the future it would be very useful not just to me but alot of people who make videos with alot of caption animation!

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jetdv wrote on 1/9/2025, 10:20 AM

Short answer is no. ProType Titler is not OFX so you can't change things like the text. You can only choose a "preset".

You can read the text from "Titles and Text" and count the letters in the script.

 

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/9/2025, 8:00 PM

i cant find a better way to automate text without masking by hand

@yugo-hughes For simple typewriter animations, you can use "Title 04" preset in Titles & Text. More complex animations still require ProType Titler, which is still the most advanced title tool in VEGAS Pro.

 

Just as @jetdv says, scripts cannot directly modify the parameters of non-OFX effects. These non-OFX effects can only be modified by the form of presets. One interesting fact I found, though, is that ProType Titler actually uses XML to store the preset files. Therefore, you may be able to modify the text content by editing the preset files and applying it to ProType Titler. It's not a conventional solution, but it's the only one I can think of right now.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/10/2025, 3:48 AM

@yugo-hughes It took me about 7 hours to complete this script. Practice has proved that it works!

To use it, you can go to my GitHub repository: https://github.com/zzzzzz9125/VegasScripts
Just download TitlesAndText2ProTypeTitler.cs and ProTypeTitlerBase.xml, and place them in any Script Menu folder. Next, enjoy it!

Anything you find that could be improved, please let me know.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 1/10/2025, 1:32 PM

@zzzzzz9125 Tried it, but constantly gets a pop up error.

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/10/2025, 5:48 PM

@zzzzzz9125 Tried it, but constantly gets a pop up error.

@Steve_Rhoden Are there any errors that can be reported? At least in my VP22, it works fine.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

yugo-hughes wrote on 1/10/2025, 10:42 PM

thanks @zzzzzz9125 this is huge this will help so much thank you!

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/10/2025, 11:13 PM

@zzzzzz9125 Tried it, but constantly gets a pop up error.

@Steve_Rhoden I seem to know the cause of the problem: the presets folder doesn't exist. I've updated it and it now automatically creates folders.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 1/11/2025, 1:25 AM

@zzzzzz9125 Well, seems you have achieved the impossible thru 7 hours of hard work.... Quite admirable.... Handy bridge between Titles & Text and Pro Type Titler for whomever wanna go that route.... It's now working for me, as the presets folder issue was the cause of the error.

joelsonforte.br wrote on 1/17/2025, 1:10 AM

@zzzzzz9125

I placed both files (Script + .XML) in the default Script Menu folder. But when I run the script, all generated text events of the Protype Titler are blank. What am I doing wrong? See my screen record bellow.

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/17/2025, 1:15 AM

I placed both files (Script + .XML) in the default Script Menu folder. But when I run the script, all generated text events of the Protype Titler are blank. What am I doing wrong? See my screen record bellow.

@joelsonforte.br Any project examples? Just include the text events. I'll try to figure it out.

Last changed by zzzzzz9125 on 1/17/2025, 1:15 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

joelsonforte.br wrote on 1/17/2025, 1:21 AM

Yes, just include text events. If you need of the project, you can download in this link:

https://huggingface.co/datasets/Joelson-Forte/Files/resolve/main/Project%20Test.zip?download=true

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/17/2025, 1:40 AM

@joelsonforte.br It's strange. I can't reproduce your issue.

However, since it is empty, this means that the preset is not actually applied to ProType Titler.

You may need to check your registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DXTransform\Presets\{53FC0B44-BD58-4716-A90F-3EB43168DE81}\

and this file path:

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\VEGAS\FX Presets\{53FC0B44-BD58-4716-A90F-3EB43168DE81}\ProTypeTitlerBaseTemp.dxp

You have to make sure that both are present. Based on these two, the following preset should appear immediately:

 

It's possible that there's an error in the script, but you may need to find out what exactly goes wrong. At least on my PC, it works fine. Depending on what you find next, I may continue to revise the script.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

joelsonforte.br wrote on 1/17/2025, 2:51 AM

@zzzzzz9125

All ok here:

See the registry path:

See the file path:

I just find it strange these characters inside the ProTypeTitlerBaseTemp.dxp file.

But I noticed that inside the ProTypeTitlerBaseTemp.dxp file, the text was copied correctly.

This is really a mystery, but I'm already used to it. 😂😂😂😂

 

zzzzzz9125 wrote on 1/17/2025, 3:21 AM

I just find it strange these characters inside the ProTypeTitlerBaseTemp.dxp file.

@joelsonforte.br These are binary data, not normal text, so don't worry about them.

 

Can you find "ProTypeTitlerBaseTemp" preset in VEGAS Pro? What would happen if you apply it manually?

Last changed by zzzzzz9125 on 1/17/2025, 3:22 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Using VEGAS Pro 22 build 194 & VEGAS Pro 21 build 208.

Information about my PC:
Brand Name: HP VICTUS Laptop
System: Windows 11.0 (64-bit) 10.00.22631
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU
GPU Driver: NVIDIA Studio Driver 560.70

joelsonforte.br wrote on 1/17/2025, 4:27 AM

@zzzzzz9125

I think everything is correct. I saw your screen recording showing how it works. It must be something with my configuration. Don't worry about it, the important thing is that it works for most people. Thank you so much for your effort! 👍

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 1/18/2025, 2:08 AM

@joelsonforte.br The cause of the issue is your installed fonts type. Protype Titler seems to favor the True Type font format, while Titles & Text seems to favour Open Types..... So whatever fonts you are using in the Titles & Text titler, just make sure you have the true type version of those same fonts installed on your system.

@zzzzzz9125 Don't know if you can fix or compensate for this issue from within the script, but it would be good.... This however is not an error or a flaw in your design, it is simply that these are two completely different titlers.