Just bumping topic in hopes of some insite into this issue.

Don't know much about what went wrong with the audio mastering however very few CD burners will burn at 1x, that's probably why VV went for 4x, that's the slowest the drive would burn at.

I'd be interested though to hear rhe answer to the main issue, I've only made a few audio CDs and that was using Nero and they were fine, I did try one some time ago in VV and seem to recall having the same problem.

I want to do heaps of vinyl to CD transfers and figure VV given its lineage should do a better job than Nero but if it's going to be a drama to get it to run correctly I'm going to go back to Nero.

Uhm....am I missing something?

This is the Vegas VIDEO forum, isn't it? :-)

Don't get me wrong - I know that VV can do audio. But that is much like typing a letter in MS Excel. Oh sure, it can be done - but that is what MS Word is for.

That being said - why don't you get CD Architect, or use a combination of Sound Forge (to edit the audio / make WAV files) - then burn your audio disc using either the free software that came with your burner or go with Nero, EZ CD Creator or something like that?

FWIW, I have been using SoFo audio products for years. Never produce a CD without 'em. Do all my editing with SF, or Acid, I have Vegas Audio - but I find for what I do Acid is better for me (kinda like using the left instead of the right although I'm right handed!!)

I looked at specs for CD Architect....that too seems like a sweet little app!!

Alls I'm sayin is - use the applications for what they do best and you shouldn't have any problems what-so-ever.

If you want separate tracks on a VCD you need to render to separate .mpg files. I'm not sure whether VV's builtin burning tool can do this (I'm guessing it takes the first video and/or audio track and burns using just that). If I were you I would render each track to separate mpg files and burn those using Nero.

Scott

Think we just lost it there, its Vegas Video CD burning...

Back to the topic.
Kameroni, I'd normally agree with you except SoFo did promote VV as being able to create audio CDs to redbook standards. That was one reason (only a small one so even if it doesn't work I'm not overly annoyed) I bought it. I could already do it with Nero but they never claimed to be Redbook compliant so given a choice I'd rather use VV to do it given VVs linneage.

I'd also imagine that the CD burning tools in the other apps you mention would be the same as the ones in VV so if it don't work right in VV I'm not too hopfeul about it working elsewhere.

Just to clarify, at one time there were two products, Vegas Audio and Vegas Video but at version 4 they were both combined into one product, simply called Vegas. I would assume that the people who are using Vegas for audio still hang out at the Vegas Audio forum. You might get a quicker answer over there.

~jr

Doh! Sorry, I misread the title thinking it said VV VCD burning

>>>This is the Vegas VIDEO forum, isn't it? :-)<<<

yes it is...and what better place to ask my question than in the forum I know and love? I was going to post over in the audio section but I wanted to check here first thinking people may have had the same issues when trying to burn. keep in mind that with VV you can also burn VCD's as well as Audio CD's. If the track info won't pass than maybe the Video chapters won't either.

Either way I have burned with no problems using VV before and now the wierd things are happening so t could be a bug. I will post elsewhere...thanks anyway everyone. :)

On the overall issue - only one person replied in the audio forum - and the reply was "Clearly something is screwed in your system..."

Ok - so still no real answer to this but hey - could someone at SoFo/Sony answer this - like burning an audio CD I just burned a VCD - I picked burn speed as 4x and the burn started - but it burned a 65 minute vcd in 4 minutes, and sorry but that ain't "4x" speed. What point is there to having a user interface when VV does whatever it wants to do in reguards to burn speed?

filmy,
I think someone has sort of said this before and I have to agreee. I don't think the issue is entirely a VV one. Most burners today will not burn at 1x speed.
What's more confusing is the so called speed thing as well. Roughly it equates to how long it would take to burn a full audio CD which was about 60 minutes and 600 MB of data.

Now your 65 minute VCD would be about 500 MBytes am I right?

So thats about the same as 37 minutes of audio so should take around 10 minutes at 4x, but maybe your drive will not even burn that slow.

Some of my figures maybe a bit off the mark but hopefully you get my drift. I've found this a major source of confusion to so many people, they just don't grasp what is meant by a 75 minute CD, nor do I really. I always work in data capacity.

In any case there's no advantage to burning slowly, if you're worried go for 8x or 12x, I've never found anything that wont burn at that speed.

Ok, maybe I have not been clear - this is a multi topic issue -

1> User interface. Gives you the option of what speed to burn at. Choices are based on your burner. in the past burners were 1x up to maybe 4x. There was no way to choose "8x" or "12x" because the burners simply did not burn that fast. Now, also burn speed is based on the *media* - for example I am looking at some CD.RW media right now that is "1x" "2X" and/or "4x" so again, there would not be an option to burn at "8x" or "12x". So - onto one of the issues I brought up - most programs have some sort of user interface that allows you to choose a burn speed - VV is one of them. now, again, in the past when you 'mastered' you wanted to burn at 1x to prevent errors. Now you seem to be fogetting that there really were not "burn proof" options that would, hopefully, prevent errors from happening at higher burn speeds. So this is not the case right now - and I did say that CD Burners and software have gotten better and allow for safely burning at higher speeds. But that is not the issue - the issue is VV gives you options and you choose one. Therefore it seems to be a 'bug' that the software doesn't care what you choose. (To make it a bit more obvious - what would happen if you choose a NTSC DV template but once you load up the media and start to edit, VV, on it's own, decides that, based on what you are doing, you should really be doing a windows media project and changes your settings to streaming? Would you all be as happy about that?)

On the issue of time - if I burned a 70 minute audio cd at 1x it would take 70 minutes - probably a bit more allowing for lead in and lead out. In the past when I have burned VCD's or SVCD's at 1x they have taken as long as the run time, more or less. 30 minutes would take about 35 minutes to burn at 1x speed. So based on my past experiances when I today burned a 65 minute program at 4x I would expected it to take a lot longer than 4 minutes. So again I raise the issue of "Why have a user interface when the software really doesn't care what you choose?"

2> The other issue at hand is that something changed from version 4b to 4d where the audio tracks do not translate onto an audio CD. And again I will be as clear as I can - I burned, I ended up with one track only and it would not play at all, even in the Windows media player. So I opened up a project burned in 4b and tried that - same results except the CD would play - but still only one track burned. And to be clear again - the entire audio burned but instead of the marked tracks only one track shows up.

I guess I thought what I was asking was simple but I guess not. I can live with the burn speeds as long as the end results are fine, but I disagree with the "who cares what you want?" policy the software has taken. And on the track issue - clearly something changed between 4b and the new version to cause track information to not pass through to the burner. As Grazie would say - Yeah?