I've actually bought software that was past its "sell by" date.

6 months and then poof they axe the product - sorry that is pure garbage and no way to treat loyal customers but so far has not been an issue as it works perfectly with Version 11 32 bit Vegas so it is simply unacceptable to discontinue that for which I paid good money.

Give us a 64 bit Cinescore plugin for Vegas or continue with 32 bit Vegas or refund every last penny of Cinescore + themes - there is no other option. I use Cinescore in every project so if I can't use it I might as well chuck all the Sony Products and go back to Avid.

I partly understand your pain, but do remember that all software companies will at some point discontinue support for a piece of software. This doesn't give you the right to a refund of any kind. It gives you the right to be angry with said software company, but not much more.

I also bought Cinescore, but have since moved on to SmartSound, which is a far superior product.

Um, 32 bit apps work just fine in 64-bit Win . 32-bit audio VST plugins are automatically 'wrapped' in V11(64).

Not sure about how Cinescore interacts with Vegas, but all is not necessarily lost.

geoff

It's a shame they dropped Cinescore which had "Zero" problems.
JJK

It's a shame they dropped Cinescore which had "Zero" problems.

It had a problem that installing a demo of Acid Pro fixed. :)

Either way all that means is you can't use it in 64-bit Vegas, but it still works standalone, which allows you to load up your rendered video. I'd assume frameservers works just fine.

Their competition is dropping 32-bit so what choice do they have? All OS's sold now are 64-bit so there's no reason to sell a new one 32-bit, they've already dropped XP support. I'd hate to loose Cinescore in Vegas but I still use 10 as XP 32.

I keep older versions of Vegas on tap or disk if ever needed so one way or another I'll have my 32-bit buttocks covered.
Now if only....

Particleillusion

I use Cinescore when I need a quick small length of background music to cover a short scene. Up until now I do my editing in 64-bit, switch to 32-bit to create the Cinescore WAV, and then back to 64 to continue the project. If V12 does not have a 32 bit version I will just open an older 32 bit version of Vegas, set markers at the length I need the WAV file to fill, let Cinescore do its thing & then return to V12. I guess I could do this within Cinescore itself but I never use the program, just the plugin... IMO its not a big deal.

I'd rather SCS focus on creating 100% stability and making V12 64- bit really shine. With Adobe gaining huge market share after the FCP X fiasco & now with the introduction of CLOUD as a low-price entry point, I want Vegas around as long as possible. When so many folks on this forum complain about issues that are 4 years-old, it just turns-away new folks. XP is dead, Cinescore is dead, FCP 7 is dead, Pinnacle is dead - lets just hope Vegas endures. The Vegas workflow allows me to accomplish projects 30%-40% faster than PPro & FCP so I prefer not to lose it.

I dropped Cinescore many moons ago, and never looked back. I use SmartSound now a little less convenient with no integration in Vegas but way more music. Now if SCS would get a clue and integrate SmartSound into Vegas that would be a WINNER. (sorry a sheen moment)
It is a bummer though that they killed off Cinescore so quick it was cool.

I will not use SmartSound, my target is primarily web based and with Smartsound it is not always possible to use the sound files for that purpose. I found numerous instances where it was not permitted. Way too much hassle in my opinion. With Cinescore it's not an issue. I intend to keep using Cinescore for a long, long, long, time, and if they do 64bit only I will have to think about changing NLE's.

Why? Why not just not use a newer Vegas?

EDIT: Premiere 6 requires 64-bit.

I am using the latest Vegas 11. I use the 64 bit when I am not planning to use Cinescore and the 32 bit version when I am.

Not sure what the deal about Premiere 6 means. Premiere doesn't integrate with Cinescore at 32 or 64. You can still do Cinescore in standalone and then import the resulting file. But then you don't need Vegas to do that, you can use any product. The integration in Vegas is a very nice feature however. You can change the timeline, and just hit Recreate Music, nice time saver. It's a great product (Cinescore) it makes no sense why it was cancelled all of sudden that way it is.

Doesn't make any sense to me why it was canceled either and the integrated method is really really nice.

You said "if they do 64bit only I will have to think about changing NLE's". Cinescore doesn't support 64-bit Vegas or any other NLE. Premiere would be the most likely switch you'd make, they're 64-bit only. FCX (or whatever) is 64-bit only. Where exactly were you thinking of jumping ship to that's not 64-bit only? There's be no help to you for switching, only even more pain from a learning curve.

Don't forget that with Cinescore you can also import your finished (or non-finished) movie and do all the scoring from that program, then export the music track and just import it in to Vegas for the final render.

EDIT: and if you don't want SCS to do 64-bit only why are you using 64-bit Vegas 11? Why not use 32, problem solved. If it's because 64-bit supports more of whatever you're doing (memory, render more, etc) then why would you be against it?

Using cinescore stand-alone gives more options for spot effects (or I've missed something in integrated use). But I never found cinescore sufficiently flexible for me to really like using it. I've not tried Smartsound: is that truly flexible in placing emphasis or just like cinescore in just giving length and character?

Last time I tried Smartsound all it did was assemble chunks of a piece of music, possibly with slight tempo change, to fit the required time. If you are familiar with the piece of music it can sound weird with the unexpected truncations, although it may sound OK to others.

You said "and if you don't want SCS to do 64-bit only why are you using 64-bit Vegas 11?"

I am not opposed to SCS going 64 bit only - fine by me - just give us a Cinescore plugin that works with it and I will be happy. Otherwise you are stuck at an old version. I purchased Cinescore and an extensive library of sound files and I don't particularly want the investment flushed. There are always work arounds.

At least you got the soundpacks before they stopped selling then. No clue why they stopped selling the content, it's still a good program!