tool/script/method to slip multiple events?

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 4/23/2018, 12:55 PM

Yesterday I had a project where all of the events had content/media which was slipped 4.44 seconds. I needed a way to slip all the media back over 4.44 seconds within those edit points and could NOT figure out how! Notable -- each event has multiple takes in it since it was a Master-Track post-multi-cam workflow with the most excellent Excaliber.

  • Tried multi-selecting the events with the normal edit tool, and using ALT-DRAG to slip the footage... alas, multi-select disabled and it only slipped the event under the cursor
  • Tried the slip-edit mode... alas, can't multi-select events using this editing mode
  • Checked both Excaliber and Vegasaur but didn't see anything that would help...

 

I was able to create a reference (copy) track shifted 4.44 frames to where the points "should" be, and did a slide-edit manually on the hundreds of edit edges... but it was a real nuisance.

The Question: How can one easily slip multiple events on a track by a fixed amount?

 

 

 

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

Comments

Marco. wrote on 4/23/2018, 1:15 PM

A way to do is to group the Events, then slip, then ungroup again.

Former user wrote on 4/23/2018, 1:45 PM

Did you enable Ripple for that track only?

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 4/23/2018, 1:56 PM

@Marco. -- I'll try that (for future reference) to see if it works (thank you)

@Former user -- how would ripple effect slipping events (not moving)

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

Former user wrote on 4/23/2018, 2:06 PM

Sorry, I misread. Ripple would not help slipping. I would be curious to how the edits slipped.

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 4/23/2018, 3:10 PM

@Marco. -- just tested on a simple project-- grouping then alt-dragging (slipping) worked perfectly! Thank you.. (wish I knew this yesterday.. grrrrr)

@Former user -- we use Excaliber for our multi-cam workflows.. far superior in many ways to the built in method in Vegas. With excaliber, during the edit it essentially places markers on the timeline indicating what the intended edit is (and refreshes an on-screen grid tally to show the transitions) -- once all the edits are done, Excaliber creates a master track (the edit) by copying the events up from the other tracks. It's not uncommon on some of our projects to have 9 cameras -- one of my editing machines has trouble keeping up (frame rate during preview) with the 9-up view -- so I pre-render (create proxies) the 9-up view which is the only track she's looking at (besides overlay tally) when editing.

The pre-rendered 9-up view must have shifted the 4.4 seconds early on along with its audio. All markers were laid down based on positions of that prerendered video. Then when Excaliber copied the media up to the master track, it was actually copying clips 4.4 seconds over from where she intended those edits to take place.

So.. there ya go.. that's how it happened :)

 

Vegas 21.300

My PC (for finishing):

Cyperpower PC Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz, 64GB mem @ 2133MHz RAM, AMD Radeon RX470 (4GB dedicated) with driver recommended by Vegas Updater (reports as 30.0.15021.11005 dated 4/28/22), and Intel HD Graphics 630 driver version 31.0.101.2112 dated 7/21/22 w/16GB shared memory. Windows 10 Pro 64bit version 10.0.19045 Build 19045.

My main editing laptop:

Dell G15 Special Edition 5521, Bios 1.12 9/13/22, Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621)

12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H (14 cores, 20 logical processors), 32 GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM, Intel Iris Xe Graphics, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU w/8GB GDDR6 RAM, Realtek Audio

 

 

Former user wrote on 4/23/2018, 3:46 PM

I thought it was something like that. I was thinking an error in a proxy. Thanks. It is always good to be aware of gotchas.