Thanks @Former user, that's exactly why I've written this post..because this is tedious and un-intuitive.

Once the Pan/crop has been applied it's quite tricky to get off / bypass; also, if you already have multiple FX on a clip already, you might not want to copy all the other stuff..; also, I found myself creating keyframes ending up with unwanted movement..etc etc.

...Once the Pan/crop has been applied it's quite tricky to get off / bypass...

I often wish I could bypass Pan/Crop changes with a simple checkbox, the same as other FX.

...also, if you already have multiple FX on a clip already, you might not want to copy all the other stuff..

In VP15 you can paste only Pan/Crop settings with the "Selectively Paste Event Attributes" feature.

thanks @Nick, also don't forget everytime you select a different clip in the timeline, the [pan/crop] edit window doesn't move with the active selection whereas in my dreamworld it should-? cumbersome..

That also applies to FX, not just pan/crop. It has caught me out countless times, when I've found myself adjust the FX settings for the wrong event and wondering why nothing is changing in the preview. It would seem preferable for that window to "auto-switch" to the selected event, but what would it show if you have multiple events selected?

It has caught me out countless times, [...] but what would it show if you have multiple events selected?

+1,

I guess when you select multiple clips, you'd have to select the first one first [in a multiple selection] thus becoming active, until you reach the last one [being and remaining the last one active]? It would definitely be possible and certainly meaningful imo. Such thing already exists with regards to the Meters

Yeah, that makes sense and I agree it seems workable.

Next problem visible with the current workflow:

If you click anywhere on a clip to select to create the Crop, inevitably you create a keyframe for this event in this location. So, unless you move your keyframe to the start, this will create unwanted movement.

Second, if you re-edit the start of an event (ie shorten the clip), you loose the keyframe, hence the aspect ratio correction is lost and has to be re-done.

If you turn off the sync cursor, this doesn't happen.

Sorry @Former user, the Second Issue (shortening the start looses keyframe) still happens.

Well actually I was incorrect about the sync cursor. A keyframe gets created. But I can trim off the head of the event and the pan/crop does not change in Version 12. If I am parked at the beginning of the scene, adjust the pan crop and then trim the beginning of the scene the pan/crop sticks. Does not revert back to default.

this is Version 15 bro, latest edition. But anyway, good to know! Thanks

I am surprised something like that would have been changed. I didn't think they altered the pan/crop operation much.

Sorry @Former user, the Second Issue (shortening the start looses keyframe) still happens.

I don't know about Vegas Pro but in VMS what happens to the keyframes depends on how you trim. Cut off frames and yes you loose associated keyframes but trim by dragging in the beginning and the keyframes move relative to the start. VMS doesn't have any means of setting keyframes behaviour (such as to remain relative to start, end or be absolute or proportional). Does Vegas Pro have this?

Here in VP15 build 321, the pan/crop setting of a keyframe at the start of an event is not lost whether I trim by dragging the start of an event, or by splitting an event and deleting the first part. Eric, I'm not sure what else you might mean by "cut off frames".

...VMS doesn't have any means of setting keyframes behaviour (such as to remain relative to start, end or be absolute or proportional). Does Vegas Pro have this?

I don't think so. Keyframes remain at a fixed number of frames from the start of the event and I don't see a way to change that.

I'm often caught out by unintentionally adding FX or Pan/Crop keyframes when I just want to change an FX or Pan/Crop for the whole clip. I guess this comes from forgetting to put the "Position" cursor back to the start of the clip when I disengage Sync Cursor. Maybe the cursor should automatically go to the start of the clip when Sync Cursor is disengaged. What do you think?

Nick, when I was testing this I was using the [double-click-opens-in-trimmer] and set a new In-Point [i] which in turn buggered up the keyframe..and the resize-information..

@AVsupport

Have you tried copying all the clips you want to resize and pasting into a new project and then pulling it to Vegas as a nested project? So you only need to crop in the pan crop of the nested event once and all the effects that already had on the clips would remain unchanged.

Another alternative is to use the Pan Crop Copy and Pan Crop Past features of Vegasaur that serve precisely to solve this tedious work of altering clip by clip.

honestly, I would just simply prefer a working track plugin that does just that: Aspect Ratio conversion, working.