track motion related question

gsmith wrote on 2/20/2012, 3:03 AM
I am very appreciative of the prompt help I have received on this forum in the past.
Currently I am working on a project which has some vintage footage captured from a VHS cassette. The issue is that at the bottom part of the video there is a small line of offsetted pixels that occupies about 2% of the screen. This is happening with all the events on a particular track.

So basically I would appreciate any suggestion of a fast method of removing that small line of video. The video is 720x480. So basically I assume some way of removing the bottom most 5 pixels and then stretching the remaining 475 pixels to cover the entire frame.

If there is a way to post a screen grab please let me know. It will make things extremely easy for you to understand.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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amendegw wrote on 2/20/2012, 3:54 AM
"If there is a way to post a screen grab please let me know"The short answer is: [img=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20447760/Jazzy4.jpg]

The longer, better answer is in the sticky

The best answer is:



You can use the windows Snipping Tool instead of SnagIt & the web service of you choice instead of the free Dropbox service.

...Jerry

btw: I've always used pan/crop to solve your problem. There may be better ways. What type of capture device are you using (e.g. I have a Canopus ACEDVio)?

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John_Cline wrote on 2/20/2012, 4:08 AM
The offset pixels at the bottom of the frame are due to head switching on VHS (and BetaMax) machines. They have always been there but were masked by the overscan when viewing them on standatd TVs. There is usually some "grunge" on the left and right of the frame, too, so I always just zoom in a bit using the Pan/Crop tool (not the Track Motion tool.)

Also, make sure you have a deinterlace method selected in the "Project Properties" so Vegas will deal with the video as separate fields. I normally choose "Interpolate" but since it isn't actually deinterlacing, either "Blend" or "Interpolate" will give identical results.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/20/2012, 7:20 AM
Put a small black bar around the offending edges. No messing with interlacing, no real thinking required on your part and nobody will notice/care.
johnmeyer wrote on 2/20/2012, 10:05 AM
I've done it using both of the previous two suggestions (pan/crop, or masking with bars). Of the two, I recommend masking, for the reasons already given: you avoid scaling any of the pixels in the main video. This scaling operation can cause additional degradation beyond that which you will get from the rendering process. Scaling may also take longer than masking, although I haven't run a test on that and I could actually be dead wrong.

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Mask Example

You can right click and download the above 720x480 image. Put it on a track above your video, and set that track's compositing mode to "subtract." It should provide a nice black bar over the bottom of your video, hiding the head switching garbage. You will have to right-click on the mask and set it's pixel aspect ratio to 0.9091 to match the PAR that I assume you are using for your VHS captures.
gsmith wrote on 2/20/2012, 5:31 PM
Thanks all for your responses.
JohnMeyer, I downloaded the black mask, set the PAR to 0.9091and compositing mode to subtract. It does mask by adding a small black line at the end. However the offset pixels still show up. How can I make the mask bigger ?

I am also trying to create a mask in paint editor and adding it. Thanks again.

johnmeyer wrote on 2/20/2012, 5:44 PM
How can I make the mask bigger ? There isn't too much of a secret on how to do this. You use your photo editing program (or at least that's what I did). You start by creating a new image at exactly the project resolution. In this case it is 720x480. Don't worry about the pixel aspect ratio, because you'll change that in Vegas, as you did with my file.

Then, select the fill tool in your editing program. Change the painting to pure black and turn off any anti-aliasing or other edge-modification. Fill the entire screen with black. You can also simply "paint" this, or use any other technique you want.

When used as a subtraction mask, pure black will let the image on the track below "shine through" completely, without alteration.

Then, select your paint tool, or a tool that lets you draw straight lines. Select pure white. Pure white "blocks" the image below.

Here's the key to getting what you want: simply choose a wider line than what I used. Actually, you can start with my image, if you want, and simply paint a line at the bottom that is a little taller than what I had. If you are using the line drawing tool in your program, almost all Windows programs follow the convention that if you hold the Shift key (sometimes the Ctrl key), you will "constrain" the line being drawn so that it is either perfectly horizontal or perfectly vertical.

Hope that helps!
amendegw wrote on 2/20/2012, 5:55 PM
When TheHappyFriar made his recommendation several posts up, my mind went immediately to the Sony Border FX - might be easier.



Note: I put a red (rather than black border - just to make it more obvious).

...Jerry

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System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
Display Adapter:  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (16GB), Nvidia Studio Driver 566.14 Nov 2024
Overclock Off

Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
Storage (8TB Total):
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        Data Drive:     NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB
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Canon R5 Mark II
Canon R3
Sony A9

TheHappyFriar wrote on 2/20/2012, 6:54 PM
I also thought of using a pan/crop mask to do the same thing, there's several ways to do it. :)

It might be of interest to see which renders faster, one might use the GPU in V11 & speed things up, etc.