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mickbadal wrote on 10/18/2008, 8:40 PM
I've been using VMS for quite some time now, and have not found any benefit to using the trimmer over simply zooming in on the timeline and editing there. So I think you already know my recommendation - stick with the timeline, and forget the trimmer.

However, if you or someone else would like to point out a significant benefit to using the trimmer over the timeline for editing, I'm all ears, b/c I've been looking for one unsuccessfully.
Eugenia wrote on 10/18/2008, 10:57 PM
I never use the trimmer either. I split on the timeline, directly.
Himanshu wrote on 10/19/2008, 8:56 AM
Mick,

I haven't switched to using the trimmer yet, but SCS has put a short two-page white paper on their site describing the intended usage with an example. Go to Downloads > Whitepapers and you'll find it there.
Markk655 wrote on 10/19/2008, 11:48 AM
Mick,

Here is what I want to do. There are really 2 parts -

1.I download all of my AVCHD files from my camcorder. They are then all on my HDD. I want to go through each quickly (not at 1x speed). That way, I can see if I need to keep them (for future) or for editing in the timeline. In the preview window, all I only have the option for 1x viewing - there is no fast forward like there is in the trimmer. If someone can tell me how to get FF in VMS Platinum, I won't need the trimmer.

However, if not....

2. If I want to keep a clip, it is already in the trimmer, so why not edit there? I am comfortable editing on the timeline, but it would be really helpful if I could just add my IN and OUT marks and then drag the selection to the timeline. It is supposed to work - From the help file....

"Perform any of the following actions to select data in the Trimmer window:

Use the transport controls to play your media file. Press I or [ to mark the beginning of the selection, and press O or ] to mark the end of your selection."

Does this bit of "help" work for anyone? Is it a bug?


richard-amirault wrote on 10/19/2008, 12:44 PM
"In the preview window, all I only have the option for 1x viewing - there is no fast forward like there is in the trimmer. If someone can tell me how to get FF in VMS Platinum, I won't need the trimmer."

Sure ... directly to the left of the play/pause/stop controls for the main window is the control you want. A horizontal line with a diamond on it with half-diamonds on either side. This is slightly to the left of a triangle pointed upward that is below the line.

Grabbing the diamond set on the horizontal line you can view, forward and backward, in variable speed. The triangle indicates "normal" .. (1x) ..speed.

At the far left is an indication of the speed .. "Rate 0.00" .. when left to return to it's normal (paused) position.
mickbadal wrote on 10/19/2008, 5:12 PM
Brighterside's nailed it. grab and pull that little widget to speed up or go reverse, let it go and it "snaps" back to normal speed.

Another approach is to use the J, K and L keys...repeatedly pressing L plays at 1x, 2x, etc...J does the same, but in reverse, and K stops playback.

Both excellent approaches to doing what you want. So long trimmer. :)

(thx for the whitepaper reference Himanshu, I will check that out.)
Markk655 wrote on 10/19/2008, 5:33 PM
Hmmm.

Got the diamond/triangle thing to work. I use that periodically for the timeline. Good to know that it works for the preview too. BUT, my jog J/K/L doesn't work for the preview. Is it supposed to? That would be my preferred approach if it did.

So my next question is, does the j/k/l work for you in the preview from the Explorer window?
Chienworks wrote on 10/19/2008, 5:43 PM
Not from the explorer window preview, no. JKL only affects timeline playback.
Markk655 wrote on 10/19/2008, 7:37 PM
OK, Thanks. So back to my original question...

I am using VMSPP9.0b on Vista 32. I open up a file in the trimmer. When I try to set a mark in/out using I/[ or O/] using the keyboard shortcuts nothing happens. I see this behavior in different file formats too.

Anyone else having this problem with the trimmer or can you try it out to see if it is my install or a bug?
OhMyGosh wrote on 10/19/2008, 9:46 PM
Hi Mark,
To keep it simple as you would like, no, it seems to be a problem with your set up. I/O works fine on mine as does the scrub control, and all other features of the trimmer. Having said that, I haven't tried with AVCHD, only other HD/SD formats. Most of the editting software companies are playing catch up with AVCHD format, and maybe Sony missed something there, so you might want to file a bug complaint. Cin
Markk655 wrote on 10/20/2008, 7:04 PM
Cin,

Many thanks for making do some more tests! I tested an mpeg. I finally was able to make my trimmer work get the ins/outs working. At least on my install, the in doesn't really work. You press play (or L) and the press "O" That makes your section with the original cursor position your default "in" . So, I guess it works as advertised. Then, I went back to my AVCHD files and found that I could do the same.