Trimmer I/O selection irregularities

AVsupport wrote on 10/26/2020, 8:59 PM

I would like to revisit the issues I am having with the trimmer window, as I find some editing slow down and mechanics frustrations:

Most of the time, when you select a new clip and select an [I] inpoint first, and [O] out point after, you get a selection which you can then [A] add to your timeline super fast and easy.

Working on the same clip, you might readjust your Out thus voiding the In; depending on the circumstances and combination at play, you can get a valid I and O but no selection, forcing you to use [Shift+Q] 'Select Loop Region' where this should have been done IMO automatically. Where there's a valid IandO point, there should always be a selection. I also cannot doubleclick-select the loop region in the timeline under the trimmer window which would have been my first go-to fix. It selects everything. I would make 'everything triple-click to select.

Sometimes you re-select your O which then deletes your I for no reason.

When you have a selection and you reselect your I it deletes your O and your selection. why??

I love the trim window because you can very quickly have a rough edit but this is whackyness doesn't work how my mind works.

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Illusion wrote on 10/27/2020, 6:22 AM

I also cannot doubleclick-select the loop region in the timeline under the trimmer window which would have been my first go-to fix. It selects everything.

Works for me on my side, although I admit you have to be precise on where you click.

I like to expand my trimmer timeline like this, I see more of the audio and the ruler. Maybe give it a try.

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Marco. wrote on 10/27/2020, 6:33 AM

To be sure your selection is active before adding it to the timeline you could use a macro command which contains <Shift+Q – pause some milliseconds – A>.

AVsupport wrote on 10/27/2020, 7:25 AM

@Illusion the full timeline yes, but not if there's an active I&O but no selection active;

@Marco. yes I'm aware of [shift+q] but the point here being is that I think a selection should be active where a valid I/O has been set though keyboard which would contribute to a fast workflow

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Illusion wrote on 10/27/2020, 7:50 AM

As I said, on my side, if I have an active I and O point and no selection active, I can select the loop region by double-clicking in the red rectangle here

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AVsupport wrote on 10/27/2020, 11:52 PM

I can select the loop region by double-clicking in the red rectangle here

 

You're right @Illusion I guess it was just not working for me because on a 4K screen that bar between the cursors is so small it's really hard to hit, especially when you're going fast.. but yes, it does work, you're correct ;-)

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.