Maybe it has been posted before, but I only remember one of the two being mentioned.

There are now TWO JVC lower High Def camcorders to be marketed. Both using MPeG2 on Mini-DV tape. Both 16:9. Definition barely meets the requirements of HI DEF, but barely is enough to advertise it.

See this page which leads all over the place:

http://thwaits.net/jvc/index.html