Hello to everyone,
I previously asked for help and have been so kindly assisted by many of you here. Thanks again for your kindness.
Since my most recent thread, I've researched my questions till my head would just start throbbing from too much screen time. Couple that with just needing to finish this project already and I just started getting so depressed.
Now, I believe I've come to a basic understanding and I sincerely hope that someone is in the mood to steer me to the new answers that I am searching for.
Thank you all again for being around.
So here goes, sorry, background a bit long:
Until 3 days ago, I was ignorantly using an H.264 30fps 1920x1080 .mov file exported from FCP as QT file. Using this source, I edited footage and applied, cuts, crossfades, color correction, etc. (aren't us newbies so cute?)
After that, I was surprised (giggles), at how badly it all looked. I then painfully learned step by awful step how to troubleshoot. Which was all great, but I don't think I can do that anymore. I am acutely aware how much I don't know. If I had a bunch of cash, I seriously would never have attempted this on my own and would have continued to pay the pros for these last minute changes.
However, I'm happy that I've learned so much and feel that I'm close to the end (right).
Through a series of phone calls and research, I was able to find the hard-drive that contained the footage in Final Cut Pro. To top that, one of the editors that worked on the files before is suddenly in a position to help me.
This professional is willing to open the file in FCP and export the file according to any specs I request. And now I am trying not to panic as I want to make sure I am able to maximize this opportunity and give him correct and definitive settings so that I don't waste his time or yours.
Please help?
This is what I know and have inferred from various sources on the net.
1) The source file is telecined per seeing the 3:2 pattern in VLC, frame by frame. Explains combing and artifacts.
2) Mediainfo on this file that I found is below for reference. To be clear, I am assuming this was the footage that was up scaled to my "source".
3) I believe I need the FCP file to be exported to Compressor, inverse telecined and exported as Pro Res 422 HQ. at 23.98 fps? or 24p? I know I'm supposed to match the source frame rate but intend to deliver HD and SD discs in NTSC region.
OR...step #3 is incorrect and I just need for him to export from Final Cut Pro directly and just changing framerates?
4) Say all the appropriate settings are implemented, can I just open the Pro res file in MSP-12 or do I need to transcode to another format? I know about Handbrake and MPEG streamclip and needing to purchase that MPEG-2 codec (I already have QT pro). Also aware of Cineform but hoping to avoid any further degradation.
5) Wishfully, also wondering if I could just then right click and "replace" my media in my MSP-12 timeline? Or should I start edits fresh (afraid I have to?)
I'm hoping someone here could advise on the workflow. I'd love the highest settings possible with the detelecine; but I have just over an hour of performance footage and concerned that, settings will take 2 days to render.
Since this guy is being so kind, I just want to make it as painless for him as possible.
Again, Thanks so much in advance for all your help.
Best,
G
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Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 07:00:20
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I previously asked for help and have been so kindly assisted by many of you here. Thanks again for your kindness.
Since my most recent thread, I've researched my questions till my head would just start throbbing from too much screen time. Couple that with just needing to finish this project already and I just started getting so depressed.
Now, I believe I've come to a basic understanding and I sincerely hope that someone is in the mood to steer me to the new answers that I am searching for.
Thank you all again for being around.
So here goes, sorry, background a bit long:
Until 3 days ago, I was ignorantly using an H.264 30fps 1920x1080 .mov file exported from FCP as QT file. Using this source, I edited footage and applied, cuts, crossfades, color correction, etc. (aren't us newbies so cute?)
After that, I was surprised (giggles), at how badly it all looked. I then painfully learned step by awful step how to troubleshoot. Which was all great, but I don't think I can do that anymore. I am acutely aware how much I don't know. If I had a bunch of cash, I seriously would never have attempted this on my own and would have continued to pay the pros for these last minute changes.
However, I'm happy that I've learned so much and feel that I'm close to the end (right).
Through a series of phone calls and research, I was able to find the hard-drive that contained the footage in Final Cut Pro. To top that, one of the editors that worked on the files before is suddenly in a position to help me.
This professional is willing to open the file in FCP and export the file according to any specs I request. And now I am trying not to panic as I want to make sure I am able to maximize this opportunity and give him correct and definitive settings so that I don't waste his time or yours.
Please help?
This is what I know and have inferred from various sources on the net.
1) The source file is telecined per seeing the 3:2 pattern in VLC, frame by frame. Explains combing and artifacts.
2) Mediainfo on this file that I found is below for reference. To be clear, I am assuming this was the footage that was up scaled to my "source".
3) I believe I need the FCP file to be exported to Compressor, inverse telecined and exported as Pro Res 422 HQ. at 23.98 fps? or 24p? I know I'm supposed to match the source frame rate but intend to deliver HD and SD discs in NTSC region.
OR...step #3 is incorrect and I just need for him to export from Final Cut Pro directly and just changing framerates?
4) Say all the appropriate settings are implemented, can I just open the Pro res file in MSP-12 or do I need to transcode to another format? I know about Handbrake and MPEG streamclip and needing to purchase that MPEG-2 codec (I already have QT pro). Also aware of Cineform but hoping to avoid any further degradation.
5) Wishfully, also wondering if I could just then right click and "replace" my media in my MSP-12 timeline? Or should I start edits fresh (afraid I have to?)
I'm hoping someone here could advise on the workflow. I'd love the highest settings possible with the detelecine; but I have just over an hour of performance footage and concerned that, settings will take 2 days to render.
Since this guy is being so kind, I just want to make it as painless for him as possible.
Again, Thanks so much in advance for all your help.
Best,
G
***Media info file
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 92.3 MiB
Duration : 3s 504ms
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 221 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 07:00:09
Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 07:00:20
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Video
ID : 1
Format : YUV
Codec ID : v210
Codec ID/Hint : AJA Video Systems Xena
Duration : 3s 504ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 221 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 10 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 21.333
Stream size : 92.3 MiB (100%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 07:00:09
Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 07:00:20
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Matrix coefficients : BT.601