Hmmm. I guess i don't see what the problem is. That link takes you to a list of download files that PCworld.com provides. ... So ... ?

PC World is bought and paid for by Pinnacle et al. If Sonic advertised in that magazine (or any magazine) they would be on that list---I can't really take PC World ratings seriously---

Well, pcworld does not provide the downloads, they link to the manufacturer websites. I can't imagine they only rank whoever paid them for, the top rank is a freeware. I guess you pay for a link on their webpage, and they rank according how many time the link is clicked?

Anyway, bottom line is: wish vegas was on the top of the list, and get the brand recognition.

"PC World is bought and paid for by Pinnacle et al" ?????????
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Where did you get that information from? Although I may not agree with their findings, they are in no way a magazine NOT to be taken seriously.

PC World is part of IDG which has over 300 publications worldwide in over 44 countries including MacWorld, InfoWorld, GamePro, ITWorld, Darwin, CIO Magazine, etc. PC World Magazine is the largest distributed PC magazine in the world and has been for some time. IDG.net maintains the largest online network on the entire internet. IDG is also a leading research and event company.

Pinnacle Systems, while it has grown, is PEE WEE League compared to IDG and its subsidiaries.

John

Probably the biggest reason that Vegas isn't on that list is:
Vegas is not marketed to the mass consumer market as a simplistic, idiot-proof product. SoFo hasn't bundled Vegas with any consumer products, i.e., camcorders, PCs, etc. SoFo has "private labeled Vegas/Factory for SONY and some others.

I tried most of the software on that list and for my needs, Vegas leaves them in the dust!
Steve

By writing to

webmaster@pcworld.com

you can write to the editors of PC World and

1) voice your opinion of Premier and any of the other products, and
2) why you have said opinion.
3) You might also note that it is time to plan a review of Vegas 4 for the near future.

Get ahead of this game. If PC World gave you lemons, throw them back.

First of all, if you read PC, there was a comparison on Prosumer NLE's a couple of months back--they rated Pinnacle Edition as the best (about two weeks after it was released) and they put Vegas much further down the list---In fact, they didn't even re-review Vegas because the review was on version 2--LOL

By the way, I think people are naive if they believe that PC World is totally objective in their reviews----or that their testing process is really good---


This magazine is really made for neophytes and exists to sell space and in turn product----

I too, want to see the things I like honoured in print or on web pages. It makes me think I'm doing something right.
Vegas is not mentioned in magazines as much or as favourably as I would like to see. Maybe that is because Vegas is aiming for a higher end of the market. But when I turn to the higher end, Vegas is not shining there either. Take a look at:
Digital Filmmaking Secrets!
There's a list of NLEs towards the bottom of the page. No Vegas.

I got Vegas Video because I had Vegas Audio. And I got that because I use Sound Forge and love it. SoFo's marketing department had very little to do with it. Maybe that's where the dog's buried (= Old Norwegian saying).

I mean, just because they have brilliant products and outstanding (if the voices of this forum are to be believed) product support, they do not neccessarily know how to market their stuff. Sending emails to registered owners of their products is all very well, but ...

Tor

Nevertheless, returning to the original post, the comics owe a duty of care to their readers that the reviews they publish will be complete, factual, honest and objective as far as can be reasonably ascertained.

It is one thing to review Vegas and place it low on the list, provided you give your reasons for doing so. It is another thing entirely to miss it off the review completely! In the latter case I cannot see that they can possibly have exercised due diligence. I further believe it demonstrates either the existence of a hidden agenda, their ignorance, or both!

Anyone who has used 'the opposition's' software, as I have, will know that Vegas is head and shoulders above the rest. Alas, excellence by itself is not enough. Look at cars: Audi, which is possibly the best built car in the world, has been struggling for twenty years to be mentioned in the same breath as Mercedes and BMW, and still hasn't succeeded. Motoring journalists will invariably give five stars to a Heinz baked bean can on four wheels, provided it also carries a BMW badge.

If I may wander off topic slightly, in my motorcycling youth I used to frequent a boozer (pub) that was also the haunt of motorcycling journalists. At some point these hacks would reluctantly finish their beer, nip out into the nearby field and rev up the latest unfortunate model to fall into their indifferent hands, switch off the engine after a few blips and come pack for another pint. When their illustrious rag finally arrived on the doormat you could read the same old cliche after cliche: Norton's held the road in tenacious grips, Triumphs had bullet-proof engines, Hondas were flickable, yawn, yawn, zzzzz...

It is indeed lamentable that Vegas does not enjoy a higher profile than it does. That said, I'm damned if I know what the poor chaps at SoFo have to do to raise public consciousness - a horse's head in the editor's bed, perhaps?

-Pete

At least they gave you their honest, heart-felt clichés - not something they were being forced to write because of advertising deals and whatnot.
(And it worked; I still believe that Norton and Triumph were the best MCs ever - and I've never sat on any MC.)

Tor