unicode foreign language

abumaymoonah wrote on 9/16/2016, 4:49 PM

Hi,

I am using sony vegas pro 13 and can't seem to write Arabic or Bengali. When I write on the template it writes perfect but the texts get scrabled on the main preview pan. I have tried with different fonts but no results! Is there any solution to this problem? Your relpy would be much appreciated. Thanks  

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starsky135 wrote on 9/16/2016, 6:35 PM

Hmm, I seem to be able to add Arabic.

Try using the legacy text and seeing if that works. If not, try typing the Arabic/Bengali externally then copying and pasting.

abumaymoonah wrote on 9/17/2016, 8:02 AM

Hmm, I seem to be able to add Arabic.

Try using the legacy text and seeing if that works. If not, try typing the Arabic/Bengali externally then copying and pasting.

I've tried all of these but nothing seems to work! One the writing pan the text is normal but on the preview pan, which is the actual rendering, the text is scrambaled and it doesn't make sense. I've also downloaded different Bnegali fonts but its still the same.

Quitter wrote on 9/17/2016, 9:36 AM

Create a PNG with the bengali text and drag it into the timline

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abumaymoonah wrote on 9/17/2016, 9:55 AM

Create a PNG with the bengali text and drag it into the timline

Yeah, there are ways to insert texts but its long winded process especially when you need to insert text constantly in the video. It would be easier if I could write the texts straight on timeline.

set wrote on 9/17/2016, 7:02 PM

Do you mind post any single arabic line here so other users can try experiment with any Vegas text tool?

Just to confirm, so far I remember, Arabic letter is read from Right to Left, Am I Right?

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jetdv wrote on 9/17/2016, 8:06 PM

Out of curiosity, why is this under scripting?

set wrote on 9/17/2016, 8:28 PM

Probably mis-placed... or thought 'scripting' as 'anything related to text' ?

Will wait for abumaymoonah's reply.

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abumaymoonah wrote on 9/19/2016, 5:06 PM

Probably mis-placed... or thaught 'scripting' as 'anything related to text' ?

Will wait for abumaymoonah's reply.

I thaught 'scripting' as 'anything related to text' 😆

abumaymoonah wrote on 9/19/2016, 5:15 PM

Do you mind post any single arabic line here so other users can try experiment with any Vegas text tool?

Just to confirm, so far I remember, Arabic letter is read from Right to Left, 

 

I found a video on youtube and that has solved the Arabic writing problem but still need to find a solution for Bengali though!

NickHope wrote on 9/19/2016, 9:39 PM
I found a video on youtube and that has solved the Arabic writing problem...

Please post it or a link to it

set wrote on 9/19/2016, 9:52 PM

Hmmm, so far I only work with Chinese Mandarin whether simplified or Traditional words (中文 / 汉语)... not much trouble..., whether horizontal orientation or vertical orientation.

Never tried Bengali language... but I'll leave wikipedia article here for a note, if other users able to experiment with it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language

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set wrote on 10/2/2016, 5:08 PM

abumaymoonah, my quick experiment find that I only able to use Nirmala UI font to show Bengali when using (Legacy) Text Media Generator. Other fonts unable to show anything.

Here what I can do with sample text found in wikipedia:

Top: (Legacy) Text - Middle: Protype Titler - Bottom: NewBlueFX Titler Pro 4

I assume the letter is read from Left to Right like English? When using Protype Titler or NewBlueFX Titler Pro, the character showing up if I'm using any font family (Probably that's the similar case happening to typing Arabic as well like video above - automatically using other font pack that available in the OS), but I changed all of them to Nirmala UI.

Felt that Titler Pro shows all character correctly and there seems few character changes on Legacy and Protype.

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GJeffrey wrote on 10/2/2016, 5:37 PM

Set,

I have the same problem with Chinese characters. It only works with the Legacy text and with 1 font only.

Is it the same for you? Or do I need to set something up in Windows or Vegas?

set wrote on 10/2/2016, 5:54 PM

Set,

I have the same problem with Chinese characters. It only works with the Legacy text and with 1 font only.

Is it the same for you? Or do I need to set something up in Windows or Vegas?

What font do you use? For standard, SimHei (Sans-serif type font) and SimSun (Serif type font) can be used. Kaiti for Maopi (handwriting) style also can be used. 

Since I work a lot with Chinese characters, I add Chinese Language Pack (both Simplified  and Traditional characters) on Windows OS so I can also type in via Pinyin method or handwriting method, and I have few chinese font packs installed. Forgot where these came from, but probably from old Chinese Windows (3.1 / 95 / 98) version. The problem with several font packs is they were not compatible with few traditional characters (usually used for Chinese Names), and they changed to other alternate basic fonts to SimSun or disappear.

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GJeffrey wrote on 10/2/2016, 6:59 PM

Thanks for the input Set.

I'm using SimSun font and it's the only one which works on my system. Actually, I just notice now that Word automatically switch to SimSun font as soon as write chinese, that's why I thought that many fonts can be used (it might me an idea to implement in Vegas though)

I only write in Pinyin (not able to handwrite correctly) by using the Microsoft Pinyin input method.

谢谢你😉

set wrote on 10/2/2016, 7:13 PM

谢谢你😉

不用谢。我很高兴可以帮助你。😄 (还慢慢的学习汉语。。。比较难吧😁

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megabit wrote on 10/2/2016, 11:04 PM

Ha - no need to reach as far East as for Chinese characters; when I create titling in Polish (which I sometimes just need to do, as with credit rolls in my music DVDs for the Polish market), I almost always find some (strangely enough, not all) Polish characters looking different to those from the basic ASCII set: some are different font, others looking like the same font as the remaining Lating ones but slightly different size, etc. One big mess!

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abumaymoonah wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:11 AM

abumaymoonah, my quick experiment find that I only able to use Nirmala UI font to show Bengali when using (Legacy) Text Media Generator. Other fonts unable to show anything.

Here what I can do with sample text found in wikipedia:

Top: (Legacy) Text - Middle: Protype Titler - Bottom: NewBlueFX Titler Pro 4

I assume the letter is read from Left to Right like English? When using Protype Titler or NewBlueFX Titler Pro, the character showing up if I'm using any font family (Probably that's the similar case happening to typing Arabic as well like video above - automatically using other font pack that available in the OS), but I changed all of them to Nirmala UI.

Felt that Titler Pro shows all character correctly and there seems few character changes on Legacy and Protype.

Thanks for your efforts but its same as before even in your picture its same! Writing on the template on the left is fine, in fact that's not the issue, but main outcome on the video pan/preview pan is messed up! This is really strange that the outcome gets messed up that too on a software like sony vegas!

set wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:18 AM

 

Thanks for your efforts but its same as before even in your picture its same! Writing on the template on the left is fine, in fact that's not the issue, but main outcome on the video pan/preview pan is messed up! This is really strange that the outcome gets messed up that too on a software like sony vegas!

Is the final render available on Youtube / somewhere else? Hope we able to know the issue by seeing the final render.

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set wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:27 AM

My final render test: 

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abumaymoonah wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:31 AM

 

Thanks for your efforts but its same as before even in your picture its same! Writing on the template on the left is fine, in fact that's not the issue, but main outcome on the video pan/preview pan is messed up! This is really strange that the outcome gets messed up that too on a software like sony vegas!

Is the final render available on Youtube / somewhere else? Hope we able to know the issue by seeing the final render.

It should be looking like অধ্যায় 

abumaymoonah wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:34 AM

My final render test: 

Same! its scrambled not like what you typed in the template.

set wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:44 AM

Ah, ok... I can notice the differences.

copy-pasted from wikipedia: ধারা ১: সমস্ত মানুষ স্বাধীনভাবে সমান মর্যাদা এবং অধিকার নিয়ে জন্মগ্রহণ করে। তাঁদের বিবেক এবং বুদ্ধি আছে; সুতরাং সকলেরই একে অপরের প্রতি ভ্রাতৃত্বসুলভ মনোভাব নিয়ে আচরণ করা উচিৎ।

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abumaymoonah wrote on 10/3/2016, 9:47 AM

Ah, ok... I can notice the differences.

copy-pasted from wikipedia: ধারা ১: সমস্ত মানুষ স্বাধীনভাবে সমান মর্যাদা এবং অধিকার নিয়ে জন্মগ্রহণ করে। তাঁদের বিবেক এবং বুদ্ধি আছে; সুতরাং সকলেরই একে অপরের প্রতি ভ্রাতৃত্বসুলভ মনোভাব নিয়ে আচরণ করা উচিৎ

Yeah, this text is fine but when rendered it gets scampled.