Using 24p to do an offline film edit?

EW wrote on 4/27/2003, 9:28 PM

Is it possible to transfer a film print to 24p video, which could then be edited in Vegas on a 24p timeline? Would this then avoid the need for matchback software?

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SonyEPM wrote on 4/28/2003, 8:45 AM

How are you delivering this project at the end of the day? If on tape, please list what format. If other, please define-

EW wrote on 4/28/2003, 9:19 AM

I guess I would want to output some type of EDL (from a 24p timeline) that would be a frame-by-frame match to the original film negative, which would then be cut to match the video edit.

The video itself would only be used for an offline edit.

SonyEPM wrote on 4/28/2003, 9:57 AM

Don't guess if you are doing a film matchback- any mistake will be very expensive. AVID Film Composer is the ONLY reliable solution at this time in my opinion.

EW wrote on 4/28/2003, 12:39 PM

There is no film shot at this time, so what I'm doing is looking for options, and trying to design a method.

It seems that the problems with matchback come from the interlace NTSC 29.97.

My theory was, that if an accurate 24p transfer to tape were possible, then that tape were imported to a 24p timeline, then at least the matchback issues around interlaced NTSC 29.97 would be avoided, each frame on the timeline SHOULD correspond to an exact frame on the film negative. Isn't that all that is needed to match the video edit to a film cut?

The other issues would then only revolve around how to link the film reel information to the video frame information. That is, the imported clips would have names/info that was related to the film reel information. The calculations to convert number of frames to a negative cutter's feet-and-frames format is trivial.

So the 24p transferred video clips should only need to have some name that tells you which film reels they came from, right?

Is there additional logic I am missing in this scenario?

Thanks for the responses.

EW wrote on 4/28/2003, 4:29 PM

Transferring film to a 24p video format might also be an issue. Unless the film negative were scanned to a medium-low resolution datafile (24p AVI?), then that file could be brought into a 24p Vegas timeline. To do this with film daillies would require lots of harddrive space I'm sure. But I think it would at least allow a 24p environment for offline editing and no matchback requirements, other than locating corresponding edge numbers on the film negative.