Well I've given up on the two plugin titler programs for Vegas and so I've been trying to see what I can do with the built-in Vegas titler. It's not so much that it's limited as it is that it's very 2D and doing simple things is kind of akward. Anyway, I can do a simple lower third with a simple banner background and a bit of motion pretty quickly now and it's not as bad as I thought. Pretty versatile in a 2D sort of way. For 3D, I'll keep using Bluff Titler for now.