V12- which nvidia boards def work?

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Grazie wrote on 11/20/2012, 4:31 AM
Vic, you turn off GPU Acceleration in Peferences> Video Tab, you'll see it in that Pane.

As to knowing more than you need too, yeah..... I've got the 560 Nd it appears as the range for Vegas. Read here about the vagaries of the nVidia 5xx and 6xx series. Doesn't make for comfortable reading.

Toodles

Grazie

Rory Cooper wrote on 11/20/2012, 6:04 AM
Oooh flip I’ve been down this road, replace this then replace that. Switch the card from 16bit to 32bit for this ap, at the end you have 2 PC’s like a Twilight two release moment do we really need 2 pieces of crap.

I want to make a short film based on the style of Deep impact and The Core where carefully placed explosives are used to sort out really serious problems
This guy places small amounts of C-4 on his power supply two blobs on his Graphics card and a large helping on his CPU.
He sets them off in perfect timed sequences, his screen flashes, Vegas fires up, people cheer hug, tears flow……….. If only.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/20/2012, 7:50 AM
> "Is there a way to disable the Nvidia board without removing it? Vegas 12 seemed to run fine on the built-in video that came with the computer (Intel HD)."

Do you have the Intel HD graphics disabled in the BIOS now that you have the NVIDIA card? Only one should be active and having them both enabled might be what's locking Vegas up.

> "ll this tech stuff is brutal for a director/editor. I now know WAY more about the inside of computer than I ever wanted to - and it still is not working."

Now you know why the entire movie industry is Mac based. There is a beautiful simplicity to having your hardware builder and OS builder be the same company. ;-)

~jr
TheLaw wrote on 11/26/2012, 10:03 PM
>>>My EVGA GeForce GTX 660ti is working fine with VP 12.0 in my it-3770k (not overclocked). Using the Main Concept MP4 template, there is no difference in elapsed time for "CPU only", "Open CL", and "CUDA" for my typical render (1920 x 1080 60i source, lots of chromakey effect). I did have to move up to the Beta 310.33 Nvidia driver.<<<<

This is very disappointing. I had this card in shipping assuming that it was going to give me a nice boost with all those CUDA cores. I've got an i7-2600 so I'm assuming it's not terribly slower than what you have. I've heard that GTX 570 cards do pack some punch for rendering. I'm not sure whether Vegas just isn't taking advantage of the card or if, as reported, the 600 series is just no better than the 500 series and less reliable.
TorS wrote on 11/27/2012, 4:19 AM
Quadro is it.

Sony says: “NVIDIA recommends NVIDIA Quadro for professional applications and recommends use of the latest boards based on the Fermi architecture.”
A look at Nvidia.com tells me all GeForce cards are made for gamers, and only the older ones are Fermi based, while the Quadro line is directed at manufacturing, media and entertainment, sciences, and energy. It seems the real question for a Vegas user is which Quadro card.
dxdy wrote on 11/27/2012, 6:45 AM
@ TheLaw

I should point out that it is Boris BCC8 chromakey that sees no improvement with GPU on. Other MC MP4 renders do benefit, and all previews definitely benefit from the 660ti.

This points out the need for a uniform test as independent users post their results here - plugins, and many other factors affect render times.

Vegas 12, with the 660ti in the non-overclocked 3770k, Rendertest-2010 runs in 43 seconds.

With a 560ti in an i7-950, it ran in 50 seconds.
TheLaw wrote on 11/27/2012, 12:36 PM
dxdy - many thanks for sharing what you can, truly. Yes, we need shared information since Sony isn't providing any details about what different cards will do using a stock Vegas 12 install.

I definitely need MP4 rendering. With the numbers you're posting, it would suggest that a 660ti might be close to the equivalent of a 560ti - 570 performing Rendertest. I know mileage may vary depending upon what you're rendering but at least we're starting somewhere in an attempt to benchmark.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/27/2012, 9:37 PM
> "It seems the real question for a Vegas user is which Quadro card"

The Quadro 4000 seems to be the sweet spot as far as price/performance goes. Yea the 5000 is a bit faster but it cost twice as much and it is not twice as fast. It only has 352 CUDA cores compared to the 4000's 256 CUDA cores so I couldn't see spending double for it. I'm really happy with my Quadro 4000 and it has performed flawless with Vegas Pro 12.0.

~jr
Rory Cooper wrote on 11/27/2012, 10:32 PM
Johnny do you have Boris Blue if so how is the Quadro 4000 handling it?
wilvan wrote on 11/27/2012, 11:40 PM
@Johny :

I also have a couple of nvidia quadro 4000s in my workstation .
What drivers do you have installed , I am still using the older ones ( think 296 something ) .

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SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2025
Adobe After Effects CC 2025 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2025
Avid Media Composer 2024.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

Rory Cooper wrote on 11/28/2012, 5:26 AM
I have the Quadro FX3800 on one of my PC’s OK for Boris Red 04 but not 05 or Boris Blue.
Zeitgeist wrote on 11/28/2012, 4:55 PM
I have a hard time believing that any Vegas 12 works flawlessly anywhere.

Is this an exaggeration? Do you work on 2 hour projects? Do you work with AVCHD footage?

Seems like a simplified generalization. There are known problems with V12 which make it far from flawless.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/28/2012, 9:02 PM
> "What drivers do you have installed , I am still using the older ones ( think 296 something ) ."

I'm using the 305.93-quadro-tesla-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql drivers.

~jr
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/28/2012, 9:05 PM
> "Is this an exaggeration? Do you work on 2 hour projects? Do you work with AVCHD footage? "

I spent 3 hrs the other day working on a project that was a 1 hr 11 min long without any problems. I am working with HDV footage. Haven't tried it with AVCHD yet (I don't shoot that too much)

~jr
Zeitgeist wrote on 11/29/2012, 2:22 AM
I see. I don't have to tell you the differences because you most likely know but... AVCHD is usually more demanding on Vegas than HDV likely to cause more problems in Vegas. I can't speak for the other formats out there because as of late I am all AVCHD.

BTW your Boris RED tutorials rock. If you are the same person.
TheLaw wrote on 12/4/2012, 11:18 AM
To let you know, I bought the GTX 560 ti 448 for $170. At that price it's a complete steal and virtually a 570. I'll post my own results when it arrives shortly but I think it's the way to go. Kepler is reportedly scaled down in theory and the first results clearly indicate that this is the case. The new prosumer cards are geared towards gamers, not video editors.

I'll also let you know about compatibility but I'm looking forward to having the card just to improve my playback. Only downside is that it isn't as energy efficient as the 660 ti but I'm also paying $100 less for something that certainly works.