v21 Sluggesh

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/25/2023, 4:51 PM

Been using V21 subscription for about a week now and am finding it very sluggish. Even on draft mode I sometimes have to give the transitions several passes to see if they are OK. Been having crashes too. Not as many as V20 but enough to be an annoyance. Anyone have any these same issues? I have a 3070 graphics card and have the "GPU acceleration of video processing" for the RTX3070 turned on. Any suggestions?
Thanks.

Comments

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/25/2023, 8:08 PM

Sorry Roger, not having any such issues so far. As a matter of fact V21 is a slight bit snappier than V20 for me.

Former user wrote on 8/25/2023, 8:21 PM

Been having crashes too. Not as many as V20 but enough to be an annoyance. Anyone have any these same issues?

I was able to get the Vegas Benchmark project to crash, using latest Nvidia studio drivers. playback is 1.5x

 

 

 

relaxvideo wrote on 8/26/2023, 1:35 AM

seems some seriuos bug/leak still remained in V21 code :(

#1 Ryzen 5-1600, 16GB DDR4, Nvidia 1660 Super, M2-SSD, Acer freesync monitor

#2 i7-2600, 32GB, Nvidia 1660Ti, SSD for system, M2-SSD for work, 2x4TB hdd, LG 3D monitor +3DTV +3D projectors

Win10 x64, Vegas21 latest

RogerS wrote on 8/26/2023, 2:22 AM

@Roger Bansemer Are you using NVDEC decoding? Does it improve if you turn it off in preferences/ file io or click on enable legacy AVC there? There are a couple other reports of sluggishness but unclear if they are connected.

Steve likely wouldn't see it as he has his GPU disabled.

 

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/26/2023, 7:34 AM

@Roger Bansemer Are you using NVDEC decoding? Does it improve if you turn it off in preferences/ file io or click on enable legacy AVC there? There are a couple other reports of sluggishness but unclear if they are connected.

Steve likely wouldn't see it as he has his GPU disabled

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/26/2023, 7:36 AM

@Roger Bansemer Are you using NVDEC decoding? Does it improve if you turn it off in preferences/ file io or click on enable legacy AVC there? There are a couple other reports of sluggishness but unclear if they are connected.

Steve likely wouldn't see it as he has his GPU disabled.

 

Here's what I have... Not sure what you suggest I do. Enable both, or #1 or #2 in the check box list.

RogerS wrote on 8/26/2023, 7:57 AM

What I meant is that you could use the current AVC decoder (keep legacy AVC unchecked) but change hardware decoder from NVDEC to none.

Alternatively you could enable the legacy AVC decoder (which doesn't use NVDEC- it's all CPU).

If either of these things improve the situation that's useful information so please let us know, especially if you have found VP 21 worse than 20.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/26/2023, 8:29 AM

What I meant is that you could use the current AVC decoder (keep legacy AVC unchecked) but change hardware decoder from NVDEC to none.

Alternatively you could enable the legacy AVC decoder (which doesn't use NVDEC- it's all CPU).

If either of these things improve the situation that's useful information so please let us know, especially if you have found VP 21 worse than 20.

I'll give that a try and let you know. Thanks very much.

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/27/2023, 7:54 AM

What I meant is that you could use the current AVC decoder (keep legacy AVC unchecked) but change hardware decoder from NVDEC to none.

Alternatively you could enable the legacy AVC decoder (which doesn't use NVDEC- it's all CPU).

If either of these things improve the situation that's useful information so please let us know, especially if you have found VP 21 worse than 20.

I'll give that a try and let you know. Thanks very much.

That seems to help the sluggishness but V21 is still crashing.

RogerS wrote on 8/27/2023, 8:05 AM

Good to hear on slugishness.

When it crashes is there an error message (does the error box appear with "show problem details"?) or anything that you think triggers the crash?

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

Roger Bansemer wrote on 8/27/2023, 8:30 AM

Good to hear on slugishness.

When it crashes is there an error message (does the error box appear with "show problem details"?) or anything that you think triggers the crash?

Most of the time no box pops up. Sometimes it does and I submit the problem. Other times I don't bother to submit as I'd be doing that all the time so I just restart. I'll look more closely at that info next time.