V9 64 problems burning Bluray

LongTallTexan wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:24 PM

Vegas 9 64 bit is certainly buggy, but my real issue is when I try to burn to disc to bluray from the timeline it searches for drives and immediately re-boots. Every time. Also the same in DVDA 5. All of which worked perfectly in version 8. I have the LG Super Blue drive. Need help soon as my clients are pissed.

L.T.

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blink3times wrote on 5/20/2009, 12:04 PM

"I somewhat hesitant to burn another one because of the current prices for BD-R media. Once I get home I'll tinker around with it a little more."

I ALWAYS burn to BD-RE first and test that disk (in the PS3) first. If all goes well, then I simply burn the ISO to BD-R.

For the rest of it.... I don't know where I can help you (not sure what the problem is). All I can do is tell you that DVDa 5b works fine. No issues at all. The last disk I did (just finished a few hours ago) contained intro media, 2 titles (m2v/ac3, 1920x1080 at 15/20/28Mb/s vbr) with motion menus, chapters.... and all the rest.

One hint I can give you is that the one time I had everything working in the disk preview but not in the ps3 was when i used 1080i as a motion menu. The problem however seemed to fix itself when I converted the motion menu to 1080p

eVoke wrote on 5/20/2009, 2:43 PM

@ b3t

Thanks for the input. It's not really a major matter for me at this point. I'll try a few more things down the line.
I'm home now and just checked and found that I'm using DVDA 5b as well. As long as I can continue burn regular DVDs I'm cool

I inserted the blu-ray I burned in to my PC and Cyberlink PowerDVD BD version detected it and played it as it should - no problemo.

Screen cap from help files

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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/290FPS/ps3.jpg

JJKizak wrote on 5/20/2009, 4:27 PM

The three test DVD-R discs I burned with V8.0c XP Bluray from the timeline worked fine in the PS3. I guess I will have to try it in V9.0 64 bit Vista.
JJK

john-beale wrote on 5/20/2009, 9:47 PM

> Ulead MF6 (with the high def package) however will produce them flawlessly... with or without full menus.

I did not realize that, very interesting! I read in the DVDA manual that the PS3 would see it as data disk and assumed it was a PS3 thing, not a DVDA thing. If you've got menus on your high-def DVD-R, I assume that means it must be BDMV format, and not BDAV (?) Or is Ulead doing something clever to get menus into what the PS3 believes to be a BDAV type disc?

I've read somewhat confusing information about BDMV/BDAV authoring, so I don't fully understand the situation in general and with the PS3 in particular. I just found one post saying "Click to DVD BD" which is a Sony program (!) bundled with VAIO laptops, is the best choice for making BDMV type discs on DVD-R that play on PS/3. And their "pro" authoring product DVD-A cannot? Hmm.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/blu-ray-players/602319-bdav-bdmv-authoring-4.html

blink3times wrote on 5/21/2009, 1:37 AM

"I assume that means it must be BDMV format, and not BDAV (?) Or is Ulead doing something clever to get menus into what the PS3 believes to be a BDAV type disc?"

I'm not quite sure WHAT they're doing John because they're calling it a "AVCHD DISK". When doing real blu ray in MF6 you're given a choice of creating either bdmv or bdav, but with a avchd disk you're not given a choice. It just goes ahead and sets everything up for you, and you check or uncheck "create menu" depending on your preference.

eVoke wrote on 5/21/2009, 3:26 AM

Haha!!!
Figured out my problem -

I'm in the same boat as LT [seemingly] in the fact that it appears that DVDA 5 didn't recognize my LG Blu-ray burner as an actual Blu-ray burner. Going through all the steps listed in producing a blu-ray disc I came across the step that basically asked that I scroll the [FILE] menu and click [Make Blu-ray disc - or something to that effect]. Anyway - that option wasn't available for me.
Now I'm willing to bet that DVDA 5 ran under the premise that I was burning blu-ray content to a standard DVD.
Under the suggestion of blink3times i'll be picking up a BD-RE disc after work today to do some more testing.

My apologies for any confusion and thanks for the input / feedback

LongTallTexan wrote on 5/21/2009, 7:17 AM

Yeah, Im over my anger and disgust at this point and I place my issues squarely on me. I shouldhave read the release notes that clearly state support for XP 32 and Vista 32 and 64. So I am gonna upgrade to Vista 64 tomorow and hope all issues go away. Sony was good with support on this problem and helping me understand the issue. They also gave me some direction if I wanted to move forward with XP 64. Oddly enough Microsoft was very helpfull as well. In the end it's upgrade time.

L.T.

warriorking wrote on 5/21/2009, 8:29 AM

Have a LG Blu-ray burner, no issues with Vegas 9 64bit with a Blu-ray project...Rendered 4 projects with vegas 9, burned with DVDA 5 to BD-R discs, all have performed flawless ....

eVoke wrote on 5/21/2009, 8:48 AM

@ warriorking

Which model LG are you using?

john-beale wrote on 5/21/2009, 12:55 PM

> they're calling it a "AVCHD DISK".

Ah, ok. Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD the AVCHD format provides for simplified menus, and uses H.264 encoding only, with a max. system bitrate of 18 Mb/sec if recorded to DVD media. So it is a subset of a "full" BDMV type Blu-Ray disk which can have more complex menus, include MPEG2 and can go up to 48 Mbps (video + audio).

eVoke wrote on 5/21/2009, 3:13 PM

Haha!!!

My blu-ray problem has been solved. A little searching of the knowledge base helped resolve the issue. Once I completed the steps listed it was smooth sailing and it played just fine in my PS3.

http://www.custcenter.com/cgi-bin/sonypictures.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=4283&p_created=1219173723&p_sid=b3infoyj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9OSw5JnBfcHJvZHM9MjI5LDU3NCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9Mi41NzQmcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1ibHUtcmF5&p_li=&p_topview=1

john-beale wrote on 5/21/2009, 9:19 PM

If anyone reading this is trying to get BDMV type projects burned to DVD-R to play on a PS3, I found this link on the DVD-A forum. I have not yet tried it myself but it reportedly works. This is for converting BDMV files to AVCHD that PS3 can play, and yet still retaining some Blu-Ray features like fancy menus, MPEG2 and higher bitrates, which standard AVCHD is not supposed to support.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=ed11e054001044968effeca97b17f4dc&p=15285018#post15285018

UPDATE: I've tried the above directions, and it does work on my PS3. I get HD with menus on a DVD+RW disc. The one thing I haven't managed to do yet is get DVD-A to author the BDMV .ISO without recompressing my demuxed HDV video. That is 25 Mbps MPEG2 and it should be compatible with Blu-Ray. The audio has to be converted from mpeg to AC3, but that takes less time anyway.

Further Update: there is a program called multiAVCHD which "almost" does this. (Video works, I just haven't yet got it to recognize the audio part of the HDV file.)
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=2356ec3d1ecdeb642d6897e0bbf9c94d&t=143744

LongTallTexan wrote on 5/23/2009, 11:41 AM

Well Well, After installing Vista Ultimate 64 all is right in the world again. Happy as punch.

L.T.