Vegas 17 Pro crashing while editing 4K

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Former user wrote on 10/15/2019, 5:54 PM

What aspect of his i7 4790k is below minimum spec.

It has only 4 cores and for 4K in VP17 minimum amount for editing is 8 cores.
Look at the specifications (for 4K edits)

I am seeing laggy timeline performance of 4k60p(hardware decode compatible) video where transitions are used, it is only using 65% cpu though, you think 8 cores could help in this situation or something needs fixing?

But this is where confusion happens with vp17 offically requiring better cpu, On my slow 3.4ghz I7 I can edit in 4K60p, playback at up to 60fps 40-85% cpu, VP15/16 was 1fps, 100%cpu and was not usable.

paul-marshall wrote on 10/16/2019, 4:20 AM

What aspect of his i7 4790k is below minimum spec.

It has only 4 cores and for 4K in VP17 minimum amount for editing is 8 cores.
Look at the specifications (for 4K edits)


Where does it say it needs 8 cores?

Processor: 6th Generation Intel Core i5 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 2.5 Ghz and 4 Core minimum. For 4k, 7th Generation Intel Core i7 (or AMD equivalent) or better. 3.0 Ghz and 8 Core minimum

The i7-4790K has 8 logical cores.and works fine. MOST of the time!

Windows 11.0 (64-bit)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight-Core Processor i9-11900K (3.5GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard GIGABYTE Z590 UD AC (C (LGA1200, USB 3.2)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
GPU Nvidia GEFORCE RTX3060Ti
I/O drives: Intel SSD PEKNU020TZ 2TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB
SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 2TB, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Audio: Soundblaster Z SE
Cameras: Sony AX-700, A7-IV, RX10-II
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j-v wrote on 10/16/2019, 4:29 AM

@paul-marshall 

Where does it say it needs 8 cores?

Here

and this is the maker of the i7-4790K saying about that processor

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Former user wrote on 10/16/2019, 7:47 AM

 

I am seeing laggy timeline performance of 4k60p(hardware decode compatible) video where transitions are used, it is only using 65% cpu though

I've only been using this a few hours. It's performance degrades with use, I found even 1080-30p footage keeps getting slower and laggier the more I replay timeline. I don't see this at all in earlier versions. I can feel that there's something wrong with it, and nothing to do with CPU.This is very saddening

paul-marshall wrote on 10/16/2019, 5:16 PM

Doh - meant to say 'hardware cores' because the i7-4790K has 8 logical cores. Here is 1 minute of intensive 4K editing, splitting, cross fades etc with preview playing. It doesnt look particularly stressed. But it does crash from time to time and if that is down to the processor so be it, but I need some proof before I dump it.

Windows 11.0 (64-bit)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight-Core Processor i9-11900K (3.5GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard GIGABYTE Z590 UD AC (C (LGA1200, USB 3.2)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
GPU Nvidia GEFORCE RTX3060Ti
I/O drives: Intel SSD PEKNU020TZ 2TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB
SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 2TB, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Audio: Soundblaster Z SE
Cameras: Sony AX-700, A7-IV, RX10-II
Vegas Po 22 latest version. Vegas user since V10

 

j-v wrote on 10/17/2019, 3:05 AM

@paul-marshall

Don't know what and where you are looking but your picture says also 4 cores

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Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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paul-marshall wrote on 10/17/2019, 3:14 AM

I know it does but it also says 8 logical processors. I'm looking at the task manager CPU performance. Obviously it's performance wont be as good as if there were 8 actual cores but will it function as if it were? What I'm looking for is the reason it crashes sometimes but works perfectly well most of the time. If I need to buy a better processor I will but I'm not yet convinced.
The spec mentions the 7th generation i7 but as far as I can see they are 4 physical cores / 8 threads.

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Windows 11.0 (64-bit)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight-Core Processor i9-11900K (3.5GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard GIGABYTE Z590 UD AC (C (LGA1200, USB 3.2)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
GPU Nvidia GEFORCE RTX3060Ti
I/O drives: Intel SSD PEKNU020TZ 2TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB, Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1TB
SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 2TB, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Audio: Soundblaster Z SE
Cameras: Sony AX-700, A7-IV, RX10-II
Vegas Po 22 latest version. Vegas user since V10

 

kmaultsby wrote on 10/29/2019, 12:29 AM

 

I am seeing laggy timeline performance of 4k60p(hardware decode compatible) video where transitions are used, it is only using 65% cpu though

I've only been using this a few hours. It's performance degrades with use, I found even 1080-30p footage keeps getting slower and laggier the more I replay timeline. I don't see this at all in earlier versions. I can feel that there's something wrong with it, and nothing to do with CPU.This is very saddening

I am happing the same problem crashing on 4K at 60 and I even tried 1080 slow crash icon redraw etc. I am about to give up. I even did a test and load Vegas on my desktop the same issues on 1080i material. I have tried all the previous suggestions still a no go. I am using \ demo three other editing software with no problems. I don't want to pay monthly subscriptions but one you don't have to.

adimatis wrote on 10/29/2019, 2:35 AM

Vegas should be able to work with latest drivers not the other way around. If I go out a purchase a more powerful card I would have to rollback the driver which may cause other problems.

Tell me about it! :)

Anything later than 399.24 driver freezes Vegas completely, for me. I have an Asus notebook, 1050Ti.