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Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/26/2024, 3:10 PM

What media do you use? Do you have a Mediainfo printout?

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Bucko wrote on 11/26/2024, 4:27 PM

Update: I guess it only glitches some MP4 files.

Example1:

Example2:

These two formats cause the the glitchy videos, after i converted from Virtualdub.

RogerS wrote on 11/26/2024, 9:18 PM

This is a very strange format. Interlaced 4:3 1440x1080 100fps AVC (orignal was 50?)?

The second one is totally different- non interlaced 1080p50 HEVC.

The latter should really work; the former I don't know. Could you make short examples of both files available for download via a service like Google Drive, etc.?

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 11/27/2024, 4:30 AM

@Bucko Just curious, Why are you rendering the videos in Virtualdub first?

Bucko wrote on 11/27/2024, 5:05 AM

Update: So this is how i used to render my AVI videos to MP4 in Virtualdub 2, since Vegas 22 doesn't support AVI video format.

Now i use this one which is much better and doesn't show any glitches at all + it can render the audio unlike the last one:

And yes, some videos i added a deinterlacing filter, because they output 25fps in their original state.

I'll upload a video example later, i'm now currently recording an old tape.

EricLNZ wrote on 11/27/2024, 5:16 AM

AVI videos

AVI or AV1?

Bucko wrote on 11/27/2024, 5:20 AM

@Bucko Just curious, Why are you rendering the videos in Virtualdub first?

I use it to digitize old tapes. I tried OBS, but for some reason it jump cuts 1 frame every second and was more pixelated no matter how much i fiddled around with the settings, so i left OBS and tried Virtualdub 2, no jump cuts, no audio clipping, and had the option to sync the video to audio.

Bucko wrote on 11/27/2024, 5:22 AM

AVI videos

AVI or AV1?

Virtualdub 2 outputs AVI when capturing video. AV1 is after rendering.

3POINT wrote on 11/27/2024, 5:37 AM

Update: So this is how i used to render my AVI videos to MP4 in Virtualdub 2, since Vegas 22 doesn't support AVI video format.

 

 

VP22 does accept DV-AVI, it only doesn't capture DV-AVI anymore.

I get the impression that you're capturing by screen recording with all the issues that you could face by doing so. When you present "rubbish" to Vegas don't wonder that Vegas is not able to handle.

RogerS wrote on 11/27/2024, 7:06 AM

VEGAS supports AVI video.

Could you provide a short video made before the conversion? We might be able to come up with a better workflow for you. What device/software are you using to get the files onto the computer?

Also consider x264 in VirtualDub as it's an encoder many of us use and are familiar with.

Bucko wrote on 11/28/2024, 4:06 AM

VEGAS supports AVI video.

Could you provide a short video made before the conversion? We might be able to come up with a better workflow for you. What device/software are you using to get the files onto the computer?

Also consider x264 in VirtualDub as it's an encoder many of us use and are familiar with.

Unedited, interlaced 25fps recorded from Virtualdub 2. Captured with a Startech USB Video Capture Adapter.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/bbo7ziscl51uc1s/1.avi/file

3POINT wrote on 11/28/2024, 5:24 AM

@Bucko Plays without issues on my system. But what a waste of storage space to use 425MB for 22 sec lores quality video. I could shrink it to less than 3MB without visible quality loss.

Bucko wrote on 11/28/2024, 5:45 AM

@Bucko Plays without issues on my system. But what a waste of storage space to use 425MB for 22 sec lores quality video. I could shrink it to less than 3MB without visible quality loss.

Yes, it can load in Vegas 22.
Virtualdub does take a lot storage when recording and saving, but after loading the video again, and using the xvid video compressor, it lowers the file size to just 25,1mb whithout any video loss.

RogerS wrote on 11/28/2024, 6:11 AM

I wasn't able to get this file to glitch on one of my laptops. Does this file have similar problems to the one you made a video of above? If so I'll try it with my desktop as well.

One difference is you have an AMD GPU and 3Point and I have NVIDIA GPUs so it's possible the glitch is AMD specific. I'm happy to do more testing of files you have trouble with.

Reyfox wrote on 11/28/2024, 6:48 AM

Well, there is no glitch at all with my all AMD computer.

Full playback with Best>Full preview setting. And this was done on the first time playing it.

Dexcon wrote on 11/28/2024, 7:13 AM

No problem here on either my desktop or laptop other than some banding on the fade in/out on the Sony logo which is not untypical of original video from the era. According to a MediaInfo report on 1.avi, the video is 4.2.2 which does seem to be over-reach on what seems to be a decades old video.

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Bucko wrote on 11/28/2024, 8:03 AM

I think i can safely assume that it was not the editor, but the video codec at the time.

3POINT wrote on 11/28/2024, 8:21 AM

@Bucko Plays without issues on my system. But what a waste of storage space to use 425MB for 22 sec lores quality video. I could shrink it to less than 3MB without visible quality loss.

Yes, it can load in Vegas 22.
Virtualdub does take a lot storage when recording and saving, but after loading the video again, and using the xvid video compressor, it lowers the file size to just 25,1mb whithout any video loss.

My goodness, do you still compress with codecs like xvid/divx (those are more than 20 years old)? Try codecs from today AVC/ H264 or HEVC/H265. I used AVC and got a 2,3 mB file, that's 10 time smaller than your xvid file.