VEGAS 22 is not Smoother Like VEGAS 20 In Playback

iEmby wrote on 9/9/2024, 7:42 PM

Hello guys.

recently I was working on traditional wedding project in VEGAS 22.

and I start frustrated due to video lags while playback.

but when i tried it in VP20 then it was so smooth in Best (Full)

please look at this clip.

what can be cause of this?

I don't think it is my system.

I am working on same system for version you can see.

all my footages are 1920 x 1080 @ 50fps

this is media info

General
Complete name               : D:\Puneet Photography\Tirath Wedding\wedding\C0198.MP4
Format                      : XAVC
Codec ID                    : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
File size                   : 412 MiB
Duration                    : 1 min 8 s
Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
Overall bit rate            : 50.4 Mb/s
Frame rate                  : 50.000 FPS
Encoded date                : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
Tagged date                 : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L4.2
Format settings             : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, Reference  : 2 frames
Format settings, Slice coun : 4 slices per frame
Codec ID                    : avc1
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                    : 1 min 8 s
Bit rate mode               : Variable
Bit rate                    : 47.9 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 60.0 Mb/s
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 50.000 FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.462
Stream size                 : 392 MiB (95%)
Encoded date                : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
Tagged date                 : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : xvYCC
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709
Metas                       : 3
Codec configuration box     : avcC

Audio
ID                          : 2
Format                      : PCM
Format settings             : Big / Signed
Codec ID                    : twos
Duration                    : 1 min 8 s
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                   : 16 bits
Stream size                 : 12.6 MiB (3%)
Encoded date                : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
Tagged date                 : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC

Other
ID                          : 3
Type                        : meta
Format                      : Sony Real Time Metadata
Codec ID                    : rtmd
Duration                    : 1 min 8 s
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Time code of first frame    : 06:11:27;20
Encoded date                : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
Tagged date                 : 2024-08-11 09:07:53 UTC
TransferCharacteristics_Fir : xvYCC
ColorPrimaries_FirstFrame   : BT.709
MatrixCoefficients_FirstFra : BT.709
IrisFNumber_FirstFrame      : 6.300191
FocusPositionFromImagePlane : 3.110 m
AutoExposureMode_FirstFrame : Manual
AutoFocusSensingAreaSetting : Center Sensitive Auto
ShutterSpeed_Time_FirstFram : 1/50 s
CameraMasterGainAdjustment_ : 21.00 dB
ISOSensitivity_FirstFrame   : 1000
ElectricalExtenderMagnifica : 100%
AutoWhiteBalanceMode_FirstF : Preset
ExposureIndexofPhotoMeter_F : 1000

Comments

RogerS wrote on 9/9/2024, 11:19 PM

I'm surprised this footage wouldn't play back smoothly.

The obvious difference between 20 and 22 is a different media decoder (and reworked video engine) but generally performance has improved.

fr0sty wrote on 9/9/2024, 11:38 PM

You can always disable the new video engine by unchecking "enable direct GPU import path", or tell it to use the old decoders by selecting "legacy AVC" or "experimental HEVC" in file i/o settings, and see if it improves performance, but like Roger said, I've only noticed big performance gains in the new versions, not worse performance.

iEmby wrote on 9/9/2024, 11:46 PM

No, sir.. this time turning ON legacy mode is still not make it smooth like 20.

okay..

can the lots of footages on timeline be cause of this?

iEmby wrote on 9/9/2024, 11:49 PM

i agree with you both.. i also feel some improvements like i don't get any AMD crashes or any other random crashes.

but this is i am feeling from last few days but it did'nt affect me too much.. bcoz those were very minimal... but this time it is so frustating.

thats why i report.

iEmby wrote on 9/9/2024, 11:56 PM

okay here is one thing. when after completing all trimmings I save VP20 file and reopen it into VP22 it is fine now.

don't know why.

RogerS wrote on 9/10/2024, 10:51 PM

I have no idea- was it running out of ram before? In general 8-bit Sony X-AVC S should play back very well in VEGAS.

iEmby wrote on 9/11/2024, 1:18 AM

sir, may be you guys will get idea from this. and can guide me.

it lags mostly when i change cursor position while playback.

fr0sty wrote on 9/11/2024, 6:04 PM

So does it only do this when you increase the playback speed? When you set it to normal speed, is performance the same as earlier versions?

iEmby wrote on 9/18/2024, 2:48 AM

it is again start lagging.

this time on a very low-quality video but only where text added.

This is the video I used

This is screen recording of all error.

and

So does it only do this when you increase the playback speed? When you set it to normal speed, is performance the same as earlier versions?

@fr0sty yes sir, it give same lagging when playback speed is normal. lag everytime when i change cursor position while playback