I have a Sony TRV-27....this kinda has me worried....I have the beta and will try a capture tonight and let you know what happens.

Pete Fanning

I'm the guy sdmoore was talking about that was having similar problems. Deef, a SoFo guy e-mailed the following to me:

>>>Hi Randy, sorry to hear your having some troubles with Video Capture 4. Rest assured, I would like to find out what's going on.

Can you please resend your system, OS, and DV device specs? PAL device, correct?

Does it matter if the device is playing, paused, or stopped when you start capture?

What if you capture from a different part of the tape or a different tape?

What if you capture directly from the lens (device in Camera not VTR mode)?

The DV device should be listed as "Microsoft DV Camera and VCR" under the Video menu.

Have you installed the DirectX 8.0a DV Update? Or updated to DX 9?

Thanks!
-Dee<<<<<

I replied yesterday so looking forward to Deef's reply. Maybe you should answer the same questions and send to deef@sonicfoundry.com ; he sounds genuinely concerned
(something rare these days, no?).
Also worth mentioning (which reminds me that I should let deef know) I got so caught up in Marty's advice for my topic from yesterday, "Get organized...with V4 vidcap?" that I just now realized I got great results when capturing from a different tape. The only differences was I wasn't capturing the whole tape at once, just marking "capture in/outs" and then batch capturing.
At this point I should probably do the same with the tape I was having trouble with to see if that makes a difference. BTW Bob, did you notice if your audio played a little slower ( I probably wouldn't have noticed except my tape was music and noticed the pitch being down about 1/2 step. Anyway, I'll go try some a batch capture with that same tape along with the other suggestions deef made and report back.
Randy

Well my problem was simple enough. The capture only did this when selecting "capture tape from start" whereas "capture tape from current position" and "batch capture" work fine. I'm still baffled as to why there were no problems in VV3 but I can certainly live with it especially since I found out when I tried another tape vidcap 4 worked flawlessly. The only difference in tapes were that the "problem" tape was recorded in DV SP mode as opposed to DV Cam mode (my camera is switchable) but I imagine that is irrelevant.
Randy

The only idea that I may contribute with, is:

May it be that "capture from tape start" *may* touch a piece of tape that was not stripped addequately (for example, instead of recording 1-min leading black in your tape, you just fast-forwarded 1-min)(another chance is that you dropped the new tape in the camera and start recording, without first rewinding 1 or two sprocket turns ...).
Then, Vegas would start capture in a section without timecode and garbled the reading. I almost ruined one of my filmings once, when I hadn't time to properly wind/rewind/stripping/rewind/create black lead, before starting to record.
This could explain why some tapes have the problem and some don't.

And I think that VV3 doesn't have such an option. It's always from tape position, isn't it ?

Cheers.

Makes sense.
Yes VV3 has the "capture from start" option.
Thanks,
Randy

Yes, rstein, are your tapes striped? We require striped tapes since you're unable to Batch Capture/Recapture properly if not stripped because of duplicate timecode issues.

That said, I do have some non-striped tapes from awhile ago and I haven't seen this problem with them using my TRV11 and using Capture Tape.

Also, rstein, does this problem go away if you capture from the middle of the tape or use another tape, as g_randybrown indicated?

Thanks!

Hi deef,

When I discovered the problem last night, I tried capturing from the middle of the tape (from current position). That made no difference (still corrupted capture). However, closing V4 and going to VV3 vidcap at that point worked fine, including capture from beginning of the tape.

This may be significant: Through the lens capture works fine.

Win2K SP2, Athlon 1700+, Adaptec (TI) 1394 card.

Thanks,
Bob.

Is your adaptec card full ohci compliant ?

Considering that TTL works OK: are your VidCap seetings ok ? wouldn't you be filming in ntsc and capturing in pal, or whatever ? (silly question, maybe, but I don't have Vegas in this computer).

just for shaking the neurons ... :-)

Have you tried capturing using the MSDV codec? i.e. go to Options->Preferences and in the General tab check Use Microsoft DV codec.

Scott

Bob, did you answer all of Dee's question's that I pasted?
Randy

Yes, the Adaptec card is OHCP compliant, and the settings are analogous to those in VV3.

Last night, I was able to capture a 30 minute tape without corruption - however, it dropped frames. I've NEVER had a problem with dropped frames in VV3, ever!

Further, upon rendering the captured project (all I added was markers) to a DV .AVI file, the preview window was blank during the render till about 5 minutes into the render, and the render died (no error, render just stopped and Vegas 4.0 went catatonic) after about 12 minutes. Killing Vegas 4.0, and taking the exact same captured video files and rendering from VV3 worked as reliably and perfectly as always.

I'm beginning to dislike Vegas 4.0's instabilities and quirks on my system. I may try a de-install re-install and an update to Direct-X, but I hate to risk destabilizing a working VV 3 setup if these measures don't fix Vegas 4.0.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far...

Bob.