Vegas 5 envelope edit error/crash

drbam wrote on 9/14/2004, 12:27 PM
Using Vegas 5.0b – this has happened several times with different projects: while editing envelopes: volume, pan, mute, etc, either on a track or bus, I will get an exception error message and Vegas crashes. Although I haven't absolutely confirmed it yet, it seems to occur primarily when I have the envelope edit tool selected. The message below occurred while editing a mute envelope in a bus with the envelope edit tool selected. This certainly seems like a bug (related to the envelope edit tool). Other than this, Vegas 5 seems to run pretty well. At least this is the only issue that seems to make it crash. I never had this problem in Vegas 3 however. Anyone else experience this??



System (studio only - I primarily use Vegas and Sound Forge - no extras or unnecessary apps):

XP Pro
AMD XP2400
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe Nforce 2 chipset
1 gig DDR ram
Matrox 450 video card (latest drivers)
WD 80 gig 7200 IDE system drive
WD 80 gig 7200 IDE data drive
Maxtor 80 gig 7200 IDE Backup drive
Layla 24 interface (latest drivers)

Error Message:

Sony Vegas 5.0
Version 5.0b (Build 160)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x6DB7FE8 IP:0x492CE2
In Module 'vegas50.exe' at Address 0x400000 + 0x92CE2
Thread: GUI ID=0x998 Stack=0x12F000-0x130000
EAX=06db8008 CS=001b EIP=00492ce2 EFLGS=00010207
EBX=06f34858 SS=0023 ESP=0012fbdc EBP=06a924b8
ECX=00000008 DS=0023 ESI=06db7fe8 FS=0038
EDX=06653460 ES=0023 EDI=0012fc48 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
00492CE2: F3 A5 8B 4B 24 8B C1 C1 ...K..
00492CEA: E8 02 83 E0 01 74 0F 8B .....t..
Stack Dump:
0012FBDC: 06F34858 06D60000 + 1D4858
0012FBE0: 06A924B8 06A40000 + 524B8
0012FBE4: 000001DF
0012FBE8: 00000155
0012FBEC: 066532C0 065D0000 + 832C0
0012FBF0: 00000000
0012FBF4: 00000000
0012FBF8: 00000000
0012FBFC: 00000000
0012FC00: 06F34858 06D60000 + 1D4858
0012FC04: 00000002
0012FC08: 000001DE
0012FC0C: 00000157
0012FC10: 06F34858 06D60000 + 1D4858
0012FC14: 00000002
0012FC18: 000001DE
> 0012FC24: 0048D6B3 00400000 + 8D6B3 (vegas50.exe)
0012FC28: 211A2000
0012FC2C: 00000000
0012FC30: 3F7C9630
0012FC34: 00000000
> 0012FC4C: 004918B7 00400000 + 918B7 (vegas50.exe)
0012FC50: 000001DC
0012FC54: 06F34858 06D60000 + 1D4858
0012FC58: 06A924B8 06A40000 + 524B8
0012FC5C: 00000154
> 0012FC68: 0049321B 00400000 + 9321B (vegas50.exe)
0012FC6C: 06A924B8 06A40000 + 524B8
0012FC70: 00000001
0012FC74: 000001DF
0012FC78: 00000155
> 0012FC90: 005B2B4F 00400000 + 1B2B4F (vegas50.exe)
0012FC94: 06A924B8 06A40000 + 524B8
0012FC98: 00000200
0012FC9C: 00000001
0012FCA0: 015501DF 01450000 + 1001DF
> 0012FCD0: 77D47998 77D40000 + 7998 (USER32.dll)
> 0012FCD4: 01010053 01000000 + 10053 (vegas50k.dll)
> 0012FCD8: 00468E97 00400000 + 68E97 (vegas50.exe)
- - -
0012FFF0: 00000000
0012FFF4: 00000000
0012FFF8: 0072DE90 00400000 + 32DE90 (vegas50.exe)
0012FFFC: 00000000


drbam wrote on 9/15/2004, 4:28 PM
Bump. . . please.

SonyEPM wrote on 9/15/2004, 6:15 PM
could you shoot me your project file, no media?
DouglasClark wrote on 9/17/2004, 11:42 AM
Yes, I have also had crashes while editing envelopes. It seems to me that it has been when making changes to the envelope while Vegas is playing back. It last happened two days ago while my clients were auditioning their CD...and asking for a few tweaks. Rather embarrasing to have to reboot! Vegas hung, but kept on playing until Windows shut down! :-(
SonyEPM wrote on 9/17/2004, 12:27 PM
I could not repro with drbam's project and neither could our QA people. If you can figure out the minimum repro steps that lead to the crash, please by all means let us know.
drbam wrote on 9/17/2004, 1:49 PM
My crashes have involved only Vegas shutting down – not Windows. And they happened while editing without playing back. I was disappointed to hear that Sony could not repro it. There's no way I can conceive of reproducing something that's this random – every editing session can be radically different. For the time being I'll just avoid using the envelope edit tool and if I do not get any more of these errors, then I'll be pretty convinced that its a bug in the envelope edit tool whether they can repro it or not. If it continues, I'll just return to using Vegas 3 which has been by far the most stable and the fastest version for me. And I also like the UI better, but that's another story. . . ;-O

Youn wrote on 9/17/2004, 2:47 PM
I've had this happen as well with the new version. Also things like, when playing the cursor get to a particular edit point and crashes. Everytime! I find ways around it, like moving the edit point... it's kinda flakey this new version but like all versions, you learn what not to do to make it not crash and you just continue using the software because it is that good!
drbam wrote on 9/18/2004, 5:31 PM
>> it's kinda flakey this new version but like all versions, you learn what not to do to make it not crash and you just continue using the software because it is that good! <<

Although I see your point, I don't really agree. On my system, Vegas 3c seems completely rock solid. I don't have to workaround ANYTHING. It simply lacks some features that I'm really wanting to incorporate in my work and now am using Veg 5. There's several things I have to workaround (or tolerate) on Veg 5 and since Sony isn't able to repro this current problem, it seems I'll be adding to the existing number of workarounds. ;-(

Youn wrote on 9/20/2004, 7:17 AM
"I don't really agree" but you can't totally disagree. The fact remains: almost all programs have a bug or two which can lead to an error or crash.

Yesterday I had an 8 hour recording/editing/mixing session and I was planning on using Vegas 5 because I needed to use ASIO. I was expecting to get tons of errors and be forced to use Cubase, as I did when I tried out the demo at my house, but at the studio yesterday, for some odd reason, no error or crash ever occured and ran "completely rock solid". So...
drbam wrote on 9/20/2004, 8:21 AM
>>but at the studio yesterday, for some odd reason, no error or crash ever occured and ran "completely rock solid". So... <<

Glad to hear that your session went well although I don't want to get into a philosophical debate about bugs – I certainly agree that most programs have them. So. . . back to the primary issue: were you using the envelope edit tool in your editing session yesterday? This seems related to the error/crash I get.