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FuTz wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:13 PM

LoL !!!
B_JM wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:48 PM
it has purty flashing lights and goes "ping" once in awhile
ezway wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:52 PM
OK but does it support non-liniear editing?
Dan Sherman wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:53 PM
Marty!

You're joking right?
MyST wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:58 PM
Actually, I highly doubt it will support "non-liniear editing".
But that's just my guess... don't quote me on that.

Mario
Chienworks wrote on 3/29/2005, 6:11 PM
I dunno about "non-liniear", but Vegas has supported non-linear editing since version 1. I'm sure version 6 will too.
ezway wrote on 3/29/2005, 6:33 PM
Well I am trying to understand what is the exact term for the following.
If I drop it video track into Vegas 5 and my friend in Denver is working on the same track, will I be notified of concurrency violations or will not.
Perhaps I am not explaining myself, I went to a meeting where they showed a new Sony NLS system, it looked and felt nothing like Vegas. They had work stations and each station showed active non-linier tracks that were open and those that were beinng worked on at the time.
This is what I understtod non-liniear edit was all about.
If wrong please correct me, as for words entered incorrectly I apologize, I just wish to learn.
Marty
Chienworks wrote on 3/29/2005, 7:14 PM
"Non-linear" basically means digital, since "linear" usually equates to analog. These aren't true definitions, but it's the terms the industry has come to use.

What you saw had nothing to do with the project being non-linear. You were seeing a function that checked to see what files were in use on other systems. This same technology could apply to database transactions, collaborative word processing, airline reservations, MUD gaming, etc. as well as to multiuser video editing.
ezway wrote on 3/29/2005, 7:55 PM
Ok I think I understand, but this system was a Sony product called NLS. I assumed that NLS was non-linear system. It was based on XPIR??? I think that what they said, anyway it was really great but it was not Vegas 5, that's why I thought it may be part of VEGAS 6. Anyway I think the hardware was the part of theis system, as I liked best as it's render times were so very fast.
Best Wishes, and thanks for clearing it up,
Marty
NYSubway18 wrote on 3/29/2005, 8:30 PM
""Non-linear" basically means digital, since "linear" usually equates to analog. These aren't true definitions, but it's the terms the industry has come to use."
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Not sure what industry you're referring to, but it certainly isn't television. I work in a Digital Linear suite everyday.

Linear editing is editing directly to tape - in a linear fashion meaning you cannot cut, paste and move events around without re-laying them down. You have to lay things down in real time. The tape and all paths can be digital using digital component linear suites and laying to Digi-Beta tapes or other digital formats such as DV.

Non-linear is editing on a computer where you can slide things around and move them without re-laying them in real time and starting from scratch. Once your project is complete you can then render the project and lay the whole thing out to tape if desired.

In other words, linear editing is like typing on a typewriter. As you type it goes right onto the paper. If you want to move a paragraph you have to start over.

Non-linear would be the equivalent of typing in a word processing program on a computer. If you want to change something, just slide it, move it, or copy and paste it.
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/29/2005, 8:38 PM
Subway - where do you work? I didn't think there were very many places that did editing that way. Could be mistaken - but I was under the impression that most everything is Non-Linear.

Just curious - you've got to have some pretty major kahones to do that work sometimes - kudos to you man (or woman).

Dave
Grazie wrote on 3/29/2005, 8:41 PM
I'm almost certain what you saw was Sony's High-end system - XPRI.

Here are 2 websites .. . one of them points to an SD system going for $90K.

http://www.sonybiz.net/professional/xpri

http://www.tvtechnology.com/features/Focus-on-editing/f-JA-sony.shtml

Hope this helps,

Grazie
ezway wrote on 3/29/2005, 8:51 PM
No I don't have the system I only viewed the system in a walk around. A friend's company is going to get the system and he will have a work station in his studio in LA.We got a walk around of an existing system.
I could not afford even the monitors contained in the system, I never meant to say that I could.

It really seemed the way things should be down the road, it was so very fast as we watched a 30 second HD comercial laid down in 5 seconds.
M.G.E. owns it and I suppose it was my wishes to see VEGA 6 incorporate parts of this desgin.
Hardware (or firmware) components made quick work of what we do in software.
Best Wishes,
Marty
SimonW wrote on 3/29/2005, 9:15 PM
Can anyone confirm or deny whether Vegas 6 will make my toast in the morning?
wakiyan wrote on 3/30/2005, 11:40 AM
SimonW
I heard that it would , only thing is you have to smash it and trim the edges before you put it in the DVD tray otherwise it may jam . Plus you will have to turn it over yourself and burn the other side .

Jon
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/30/2005, 12:33 PM
Well, if you get the french language version - I've heard that you can do French toast in just seconds.
Once you add all the toppings as layers on the T/L you can just stick in your bread and in only seconds have any, of a variety of french toasts.

Dave
xstream wrote on 3/30/2005, 12:55 PM
I believe your were witnessing the system Sony XPRI Editing system most definitely.
busterkeaton wrote on 3/30/2005, 1:16 PM

Did it look like this? You were probably looking at a Sony XPRI system using XPRInet which is a storage area network (SAN).

That would cost a lot money.

XPRI can read a Vegas EDL. So you can finish a Vegas product in XPRI if you wish.
NYSubway18 wrote on 3/30/2005, 1:38 PM
Hey Dave,

I used to work for Broadway Video in NYC (owned by Lorne Michaels) working with mostly Nickelodeon, MTV, VH1, Comedy Central and Showtime. About 2 years ago I left and came up to a company in Stamford, CT. Our main client is A&E Networks which includes A&E, The History Channel, History International, The Biography Channel, and a couple new ones they have just launched - History en Espanol and Military History Channel. We have 5 linear on-line rooms that currently run 2 shifts a day each. 2 of the rooms were just built 2 years ago.