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Grazie wrote on 6/3/2005, 10:04 PM
. . . and your point is?

Best regards,

Grazie

< Spell Edit! Seesh! >

Sony: I need a spell checker here! Please?


kentwolf wrote on 6/4/2005, 7:19 AM
Yes.

SteadyHand-rendered clips do not show on external preview
Event stretching does not "snap" to the notched "end" of the event

...and those are the ones I remember that are affecting me right now. There are more though that I can't remember right now.

It could be worse...like Vegas 6a.
johnmeyer wrote on 6/4/2005, 9:31 AM
There was a lot of excess noise when 6.0 came out. Same thing with 5.0, when everyone seemed to hate the "new" interface. When I installed 5.0, the interface looked virtually identical on my computer, so I learned a lesson about how to filter some of the noise.

Vegas 6.0 definitely had a few bugs, most of which are fixed in 6.0b. Media manager apparently can really slow down loading, in some circumstances. I simply halted the installation of media manager when I installed 6.0, so MM never installed.

I have run into a few issues, but nothing too major. I'm still using 5.0d, however, primarily because there are virtually no features in 6.0 for which I have any use. Other than nested VEG, the vast majority of the features are oriented towards a pretty small market segment of people that use high-end hardware (HDV, Declink, etc.). I will still be shooting SD for several more years, until HDV delivery (blue ray, etc.) is not only available, but widely used. Given the significant extra penalties of shooting and editing HDV (disk space, render time, etc.), I can't justify capturing, shooting, and then going down to SD for delivery.
Cunhambebe wrote on 6/4/2005, 5:54 PM
Grazie wrote this:
. . . and your point is?
Sony: I need a spell checker here! Please?

??????My point?
Well, since it's not too obvious (and therefore I do apologize for that), I've got version 5 and I was planning to try and to buy version 6b. I haven't tried the previous version 6a because everybody said it was buggy (hope it's written down corrrectly).

Reply by: kentwolf
Yes.....

-thanks for the input!

Reply by: johnmeyer
There was a lot of excess noise when 6.0 came out.....

-Hi John, thanks for taking time to respond. It's always great to hearing from you. Thanks for the input and for the detailed explanations. I guess I'll keep working with Vegas 5 for a while.....
Thanks to all.
mdopp wrote on 6/4/2005, 10:02 PM
I am also having crashes with Vegas 6b (reproducable).
For example when opening a very large V5 project with almost a thousand clips in the MediaPool. Or when importing more than one HDV-veg to the timeline.
But nothing serious.
I'd say it's safe to upgrade to V6b if you need/want the new functionality.
Grazie wrote on 6/4/2005, 10:31 PM

Cunhambebe - I didn't know or was aware that you were considering upgrading. I didn't get this from your original post. What I DID get from your post was that you were happy with V5 - excellent!

Now, if you asking if it is worth upgrading to V6b, my answer is, IMHO, YES! Nested projects and Media Manager and a whole host of workflow additions make it a tool that has, at its centre, a devoted, creative and listening set of programmers willing to push the envelop for us!

Yes, I too have got some issues with V6b, but I feel that Sony will iron these out - in the meantime I'm using and experiencing an NLE that is a pleasure to fly and allows me to release my creativity into areas unthinkable in V5 - viz Nested Projects!

Best regards,

Grazie
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/4/2005, 10:32 PM
For me, I'm on just the opposite side of the fence from John.
Faster render times (in most cases, anyway, but it's system dependent) the Media Manager (we use LOTS of stock footage here, in addition to some standard graphics, music files, and ACID loops) nested veg files, Secondary monitoring all made it worthwhile. It's true the Media Manager slows loading, but for me, once it's loaded it's loaded, and it loads faster the next time you boot Vegas unless you've shut down the machine.
Add to that HDV....it's a big benefit to us.
FWIW, HD to SD still results in a much higher quality SD image, so that alone is worth it too. Vegas absolutely has the best HD to SD scaling I've seen for sub 10K. Coupled with the HDConnect, which you'll be seeing soon, it's a winner, IMO.
Cunhambebe wrote on 6/5/2005, 12:24 AM
Hi Spot. I've just seen your homepage as I was searching for VASST. Sorry, but I wasn't aware of how important you are. It's definitely a great honor to "talk" to you around here. I've just sent you 2 e-mails, one of them with an indian music from 16th Century Brazil. Hope you like it. Thanks to all for the input. I'll think about upgrading.
JJKizak wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:48 AM
mdopp:
Try setting your ram in the options menu to 16 default. It did wonders for me on crashing.

JJK
Cunhambebe wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:50 AM
Thanks for the input. Anyway, I'm not in a hurry. :)
johnmeyer wrote on 6/5/2005, 5:18 PM
I always listen to Spot's input, and when he talks about faster renders, that is a big one for me, and might be sufficient to permanently make the switch. On my computer (2.8 GHz P4, no hyperthreading), the difference, unfortunately is not too great. I just did a test render of a video that was mostly stills, rendered using Best quality, to MPEG-2 VBR. With Vegas 5.0d it took 25:28; Vegas 6.0b cut that to 23:46. That's 1,528 seconds vs. 1,426, a reduction of 6.7%. If I extrapolate to a ten hour render, that will save 40 minutes. Not bad for doing nothing except upgrading. Based on what I've read, if I had more advanced hardware, the savings might be even greater.
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/5/2005, 5:49 PM
John, wait'll you see what happens with the new multicore AMD's. Very impressive. We'll have one of these procs on the HDV Solutions tour this month.
Xander wrote on 6/5/2005, 10:49 PM
Hmmm, I have been looking into this multi-core stuff. From what I have gathered so far:
1) The Intel 840 Extreme Edition is not worth the money compared to the Intel 840 D processor. Both are at 3.2 GHz. Difference between the two is 840 EE has HT for each core and 840 D doesn't.
2) AMD 275 2.2 GHz holds up its own again both of above, except in memory access performace. That was a 1 for 1 comparison. However, as the 275 is a server chip, it should be compared to an Intel Xeon, but the dual-cores are not yet available.
3) The AMD 64 X2s, are supposed, compared to no. 2 above, to outperform no. 1 above.
4) Not seen any performace specs for 2 X AMD 275s on a single motherboard yet.

For rendering, the future is definitey multi-core (less complicated than network rendering), but will wait and see for now - most solutions, apart from Intel 840 D are expensive.

Sounds like Vegas 6.0 will fly on multi-core.