Vegas 6d is up. No White paper on it?

Nat wrote on 2/15/2006, 11:57 AM

Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 6.0d

* Support for VR-mode DVD Handycam® camcorder discs has been improved. When importing video from Sony DVD Handycam discs in VR or Video mode, each chapter is now imported as a separate file.
* The MainConcept AVC/AAC codec has been added to Vegas. You can use this plug-in to import H.264 video in your projects and to render H.264 video (including support for HD frame sizes, two-pass encoding, main and baseline profiles, export to all common frame rates— including NTSC, PAL, and 24p— and Apple iPod® video format).

Please continue to use the Sony AVC/AAC encoder to create video for the PSP™ (PlayStation®Portable).
* Video quality has been improved for the Sony AVC/AAC encoder and rendering templates have been refined.
* A problem has been fixed that could cause problems when reading AVI files with MP3-encoded audio.
* A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to hang in some low-memory situations.
* A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash after copying and pasting Bézier mask keyframes between events.
* A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash when pressing Alt+Shift+4 to toggle external monitor preview when the Video Preview window is not visible.
* A problem has been fixed that could cause nested projects to display the incorrect length.
* Audio/video synchronization has been improved when reading certain QuickTime files.
* High-definition Windows Media Video rendering templates now use the Windows Media Audio 9 codec for improved device compatibility.
* A problem has been fixed that could cause a hang when burning a disc-at-once CD with the Plextor 716 SATA drive.
* A display issue with Waves GTR plug-ins has been fixed.
* A problem has been fixed that could occur when editing audio event properties on systems that use decimal separators other than a period.
* A problem has been fixed that could occur when typing nondelimited timecode in the Vegas external video capture application in PAL format.
* Various improvements have been made to the Media Manager.
* A problem that could cause XFX audio effects to run in demo mode has been fixed.
* Fixed a problem that could occur when running the Batch Render script without Quick Time installed.
* Resolved an issue with recapture of media from an AAF import.
* A bug has been fixed that occurred when setting the Timecode InPoint value of a media source during AAF export.
* A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash when adding some MPEG-2 files to the timeline and converting YUV 4:2:0 color to RGB.
* Last-used render templates are now preserved for each rendering format.
* Issues with certain VST plug-ins that related to presets and settings have been fixed.
* A problem with the ripple function sometimes creating very small event overlaps has been fixed.
* Scripting: a problem has been fixed that could prevent RenderArgs flags (such as IncludeMarkers) from changing the render settings.

Grazie wrote on 2/15/2006, 12:08 PM

Thank you Nat.

Graze

rs170a wrote on 2/15/2006, 12:09 PM

Anybody note the differences yet?

"Various improvements have been made to the Media Manager"

Here's hoping it'll finally work for you Grazie :-)

Mike

Grazie wrote on 2/15/2006, 12:41 PM

Eh? Nope.

But I bet the good folks at Madison are working flat out to make it happen for me.

It still works in ACID Pro5. So now I leave an instance of ACID5 open use the Media Manager from there and drag Media from there.

At the moment MM wont load but when now, at least, does crash Vegas. I just get an "empty" MM Panel. When I attempt to then CTRL+ALT+4 it crashes Vegas.

Thanks for asking Mike,

Grazie

CDM wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:03 PM

you've probably tried this, but did you delete the default media library that it tries to open in Vegas? Then, the next time you open Vegas it will create a new one. I had this problem too and that seemed to fix it.

cdm

Former user wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:10 PM

Grazie,

What exactly happens when you try to load MM? Error messages?

Cheers!

VP

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:12 PM

A bug has been fixed that could cause Vegas to crash after copying and pasting Bézier mask keyframes between events.

That one makes me happy - it was always un-nearving - that if I accidentally clicked with the mask creation tool, it would crash just after I copied the keyframes of a bezier mask for only part of an animation or something.

p@mast3rs wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:20 PM

woohooo. I take a nap and wake up to a way cool H.264 AVC support for two passes. Im so stoked. Great work to the Sony developers.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:32 PM

Yes, the AVC Mainconcept encoder ist the most important improvement. Supports HD resolution, too. The 2-pass encoding quality is good, stick to that. Have fun with the new encoder...

fldave wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:41 PM

Grazie,

In the "known issues" section of the release notes on the download page, there is something about upgrading Acid 5 or something if you want Media Manager to work with Vegas.

Check it out, hopefully that's the key.

Dave

Edited: here it is:
If you want to use the Media Manager with ACID 5.0 and Vegas 6.0 software, please install the ACID 5.0a update.

p@mast3rs wrote on 2/15/2006, 1:54 PM

Wow, just noticed the Ipod video support as well. My lord, I thinkt his has turned out to be one of my favorite updates (first being the HD support from way back when.)

I just want to say one thing to the Sony developers to addition of H.264 AVC. Thank you. When you could have held this back for Vegas 7 release, you chose to make it available before then at no additional charge. As a cost concious user, I am DEEPLY grateful for this.

If anything, it only increases my anticipation for Vegas 7 and what new features you could have possibly come up with. This just solidfies my use and loyalty to sticking with the Vegas product line.

Kudos to Sony developers.

BrianStanding wrote on 2/15/2006, 2:05 PM

"* A problem with the ripple function sometimes creating very small event overlaps has been fixed."

Could this be related to the infamous "black-frame" issue?

Glad to see Vegas remains format-agnostic with I-Pod support, QT and WMV improvements!

Good job, MadMedSoft!

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 2/15/2006, 2:20 PM

LET'S HEAR IT FOR MADISON!!!!

HIP HIP!!

HIP HIP!!

Dave

apit34356 wrote on 2/15/2006, 2:21 PM

So Madison is listening to everyone's concern! Great work guys, Vegas is the future! Now guys, just add GPU support for Vegas7 and leave FinalCut and Adobe in the woods.

PS. add more XDCAM & XDCAM HD support features.

dand9959 wrote on 2/15/2006, 2:34 PM

Is there any place to find out what the specific fixes to MM are? (My problem was that it would crash - and take Vegas with it - whenver I was editing tags.)

p@mast3rs wrote on 2/15/2006, 2:35 PM

It looks more and more like Vegas 7/DVDA 4 will be focussed around the HD DVD/BD generation.

WRT to H.264 AVC in V6d, it looks like Sony is using Mainconcepts older version (latest v2 support High Profile) so theres hope for High Profile support in V7.

p@mast3rs wrote on 2/15/2006, 3:10 PM

Is anyone else experiencing a humongus amount of time rendering to 720p H.264 AVC? For 45 seconds, its taking nearly 25 minutes for a 2 pass at 2MB. Not trying to gripe but I could render out to Cineform and then use Recode to encode using more intensive settings and still take 10 minutes less than it takes with V6d.

Does anyone know if the H.264 AVC has been optimized for speed?

Grazie wrote on 2/15/2006, 3:22 PM

Thanks for the ideas on MM:

Dave - Currently and HAVE been running ACID5 "C" since C came out

VP - Now in V6d I don't get the error messages I did in V6C. V6d just vanishes when I access MM

CDM - Oh yes did all that.

In fact Madison support has worked with me in deleting and reinstalling many of the components and re-reinstalling.

I'm truly pleased with the:

* A problem has been fixed that could occur when typing nondelimited timecode in the Vegas external video capture application in PAL format.

* Last-used render templates are now preserved for each rendering format.

* The Bezier K/Fs thing being sorted

* The length of the nested projects being correctly displayed.

Grazie

fldave wrote on 2/15/2006, 5:31 PM

Sorry, Grazie.

Do you have another computer available to install MM on to see if it works? Sounds like you have another program that uses SQL Server that is messing you up.

This is a case study in itself.

Dave

DJPadre wrote on 2/16/2006, 2:46 AM

methinks this is hinting at BluRay movie delivery.. i mean why bother with H.264 with 2 pass in HD fmat, when there are a variety or other formats available??
WIll blue ray movies be encoded to H.264?? We are yet to be advised of he actual movie format will be the standard for use with BluRay.. but judging from what this in itself is hinting, im begining to believe the H.264 wil be the codec of choice..

Wnder wht the new DVD Architect will avail...

Grazie wrote on 2/16/2006, 3:07 AM

"Sounds like you have another program that uses SQL Server that is messing you up." . . .well . . .

Madison have had me run "exhuastive" verbose and system reports/checks on my NLE MONSTA! and thus far have drawn a blank. But they are working on it. I believe in them.

Dave, don't forget, that currently and before, Media Manager works in ACID5 Pro. Again, Madison know this and they feel that this isn't the media that is causing it.

I had MM working in Vegas6 > V6b, it was only ONLY when I updated to V6c that MM went AWOL - and only in V6c - in ACID5 pro it is still, even now, working.

To the best of my knowledge these are the only two apps that are using it. And whatever that was ON my NLE machine was there, and is still there on and before Vegas 6/b/c/d.

Case Study? Oh yes .. . Madison is really interested.

I got time.

No one has yet suggested this, but the easiest and, IMHO, the dumbest thing to do would be to reformat my drives and reinstall. This "could" cure the results, but it wouldn't tell Madison anything. I'd just be another NLE editor having "cured" this bad walnut by using a sledgehammer.

Putting and running it on another machine would tell me it works. Hey, we got that already with all the happy editors out there using, changing and editing TAGs and what not already. Can only be me. Now THAT Madison finds interesting . ..

I got time . . .

Grazie

dand9959 wrote on 2/16/2006, 8:21 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, Grazie, but I also am unable to edit tags in MM without it crashing...which is why I no longer use it. :-)