Vegas 7 wishlist

ziggly wrote on 3/29/2006, 4:37 PM

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Ben wrote:
"- Please fix the track pan to busses/auxes issue. This really, really needs to be addressed."

"- The ability to send to an aux from a bus. "

"- FULL VST implementation, "

"I don't believe any of these requests are over
ambitious but represent areas in which Vegas
really needs to catch up. Of course I'd also like:

- Basic MIDI implementation.

- ReWire "

Ben also wrote:
"Specifically, is there any reason the pan routing changes and bus send features I suggest can't make it into Vegas 7?"

when i read your post i burst into Laughter
especailly the Part where you say

"I don't believe any of these requests are over
ambitious (God thats funny)

- Basic MIDI implementation. (you're killing me here Ben)

- ReWire (he cant be Serious, can he?)

at this point i thought
"Did this guy actually type this with a straight face?"

i am not trying to insult you, but let me ask you this:
Have you noticed your Posts aren't Being responded to?

i have.

furthermore

IF you did get a response to your Requests,
would'nt it be a Vauge one ?

and How far off is Reaper from the editing
and Workflow you're accustomed to?

i am sorry you didnt get the feedback you were looking for
when you talked to Jen.
at NAMM i talked to Jen and Karl
(Jen: i was the guy wearing a Patch,
who asked about scripting in Acid)
the conversation left me feeling giddy/excited,
but admittidley i didnt ask them anything about routing

at Xfade (he who is Banned) has a post up directed
towards you, i believe.
also i've posted on the "gang whats your Top 10
Reaper requests?" thread.
some items i asked for have been
implemented (partialy) in the latest version.

what i am trying to say is, while Reaper is a ways off
theres other sites where at least people are being heard.
at the Reaper forum theres good people trying to
make it work. (BTW would you mind responding
to this post there Plz?)

also Ben would you mind adding you voice
there to some of the top 10 threads?
an intelligent perspective is always
heard and welcome.

Maybe this would have been better suited for a PM?

P.s
Dont get me Wrong guy, i wish you would get these
much needed features, and then
the last laugh would be on me.

Ziggly

Hulk wrote on 3/29/2006, 6:42 PM

Okay, I was wrong regarding the moving of the reels analogy.

MSPro always plays the audio back at real time, it just deletes part of the audio when scrubbing below real time, and skips portions when scrubbing faster than real time.

I still find that more useful than what V6 does now.

Why can't we have a choice in "Preferences" for different types of scrubbing.

1. What V6 currently does.
2. As in my example, one speed but directly linked to cursor.
3. Simulate moving the reels

I have to admit that coming from an analog studio I'm quite happy with Vegas in terms of audio. I know I probably don't know what I'm missing but I'm so glad not to be using a patchbay...

I still haven't gotten over the fact that I can set up a mix in 5 minutes that used to take 2 hours. And then I'd have to take a picture of the boards, effects, etc.. before moving on just in case I had to go back.

- Mark

Rosebud wrote on 3/29/2006, 9:03 PM

Ben wrote:
"Well you know you can move the cursor without losing your time selection by clicking above the ruler, right? Do you also know that backspace cycles through previous, 'lost', time selections?"

I know that.
But to place cursor or to move cursor quickly, you must use the Ctrl key (or Ctrl+Shift)… not very handy…
And I’m tired to use backspace every time I lose time selection…
When editing, priority must be to place/move cursor (like absolutely all NLE). Not to make a time selection.

R0cky wrote on 3/30/2006, 12:39 PM

audio event FX same as video events. I can apply a real time effect to a single event on an audio track.

Ben wrote on 3/30/2006, 1:29 PM

I completely know what you're saying Ziggly but, well, you've gotta try! I've invested way too much time into this software to give up now. But, yeah, I do realise that it's a battle we seem to have sadly lost a long time ago and, yes, it's clear Peter's ignoring me!

I certainly am into REAPER and you'll find plenty of posts and suggestions from me on the forum (I'm Ben Zero there). Justin's listened to quite a lot of my requests, mainly on the editing side, which have subsequently been implemented. There's a few things about the software I'm not yet comfortable with, including the routing paradigm which funnily enough is the opposite of Vegas - arguably it's a little too complex! The structure's fine but I'm not yet 100% convinced by the usability of the routing for my purposes, in that I don't find it very quick and intuitive. Would be great if the sends were always exposed on the UI. And work pressures and deadlines mean I'm nowhere near ready to leave the software I'm comfortable with yet - Vegas. Anyway...

I didn't go to NAMM, I was talking about the London, UK Sounds Expo. To be honest, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, I didn't find Jenn particularly helpful; she became quite defensive when I mentioned the routing shortcomings of ACID and Vegas, and when I asked if ACID 6 was to have *all* of Vegas' editing features. I'd need that to be able to jump ship to ACID.

I do hold out a distant hope that, in time, Vegas will catch up with the features I've mentioned above. After all, one of Vegas' USP's is that it has incredible audio functionality for a video app [sh*t - is it a video app? :P]. I'm sure Vegas' competitors on the video side will sooner or later want to catch up with its audio features and that's when, maybe, audio in Vegas will get a push. I know, it's a long-shot...

As for The Other Place, thanks - I've just seen that post and hopefully will get around to replying soon!

Cheers

B

wazer wrote on 3/30/2006, 2:18 PM

here are my wishes:

- Folder Tracks - Editable and" loopable" (for buliding perfect drum and other rhythmic patterns)
- Improvements on Multiple Take Handling (for eg. i want to add a new take to all of the kick samples in the session. "Replace.." is not the thing i need here)
- Swing/Shuffle to the Grid (why ACID doesn't have this at least??)
- Better TimeStretch/PitchShift algo, or 3dr party TS/PS support
- "oldskool" Sampler-type pitch, +/- (or other keys) to change WITHOUT TS/PS algo by semitones. just the oldskool way.. (Lock to stretch?) now it takes at least 4 clicks per take..
- Better Audio Resampling Quality (the current real-time resampling algo affects the high frq domain so much. SoundForge does it much better.) now it's not ideal for making DJ-mix-CD for eg. (..where the quality is important)
- DUPLICATE function (as ProTools does, for making ONE new file from edited track (many separated and selected takes), without ANY track or bus-effect) then import it to a new track back into the session
- Chance to fade NOT FROM-AND-TO ZERO. (for "simulating compressors")

as Ben, i'm down to Vegas very much too. There's no real competitor app on the market for my workflow. Please SONY..

vvv

ziggly wrote on 3/31/2006, 12:52 AM

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"as Ben, i'm down to Vegas
very much too"-Wazer

"I've invested way too much time into
this software to give up now"-Ben

if only Sony was as loyal to you
as you are to thier products......

Look Ben, im not gonna argue with you
What i really want you to do is this:
tell everybody off,
get Banned from this Forum,
and then devote your energies to the Reaper

Talking to Sony Reps is like speaking into the Void.
its almost as if, when you type you can hear your text
ringing out into the Emptiness.

leave these Vegas wishlists threads to the newbies here
let them find out for themselves
how it is, when thier posts aren't responded to
and thier features aren't implemented

Ben
you are a Voice that carries weight on all forums
and i hate to see you shouting into the Void,
when Reaper is in it's formative stages
and there are hearing ears listening for innovative ideas

However the window is narrowing
as i fear that after version 1's
release Justin wont be inclined to
make any radical changes to the Product
(i call this the Vegas effect.)

Right now MalcomJ has posted a Reaper routing guide
and if it turns out that it dosent work to your
satisfaction. ..H@ll they might just make it work
to your satisfaction! now how many software programs
can you say that about?

Ziggly

drbam wrote on 3/31/2006, 5:48 AM

I would love to have everything implemented that's been mentioned so far. From my perspective though, it seems a pretty safe guess that Vegas will move further into the video market. Given that Acid 6 is touted to be a full featured DAW, its doubtful that we will see any significant audio features added to Vegas. I would hope I'm wrong, but one doesn't need a degree in cryptology to read these glaringly obvious signs.

drbam

mangooo wrote on 4/4/2006, 10:46 AM

Some kind of group list. I have tons of different groups sometimes and whould like to find one, Simply click in the group list of the specific group and everything in the group gets highlighted. Ofcourse it should be possible to rename the groups in the grouplist.

Better vst fx support, like tempo sync and so.
Midi tracks and vsti support like in acid.

Thats whas it for now :) :)

BWO wrote on 4/5/2006, 4:59 AM

Realtime audio event FX.

Ben wrote on 4/5/2006, 5:42 AM

>>> Some kind of group list. I have tons of different groups sometimes and whould like to find one, Simply click in the group list of the specific group and everything in the group gets highlighted. Ofcourse it should be possible to rename the groups in the grouplist. <<<

Very nice idea, Mangooo. Would be really cool to also see this with tracks, so you could group tracks together in a similar way, resulting in ganged faders, etc. And this could all be viewable on a dockable window :)

B

mangooo wrote on 4/6/2006, 11:13 AM

>>>
Very nice idea, Mangooo. Would be really cool to also see this with tracks, so you could group tracks together in a similar way, resulting in ganged faders, etc. And this could all be viewable on a dockable window<<<

Very good idea Ben :)

ziggly wrote on 6/19/2006, 7:31 PM

so does this sum it up?

i wonder if these posts here reflect the total package that the Vegas audio community is looking for.

Ziggly

Aciamaj007 wrote on 6/23/2006, 11:09 AM

Here are some features I would love to see in Vegas 7.0

- Midi tracking and editing
- VST instrument support
- True External Hardware Aux Send/Return
- Collapsable Scribble Comment Box for each track
- Printable Track Sheets from tracks
- Broadcast Wave Export and Record in
- Docable windows on Second of Dual Monitors
- Multi Master/Buss send to duplicate out going mixes to more
masters
- Better Control Surface support and editing
- Mackie C4 Support and better Extenders Support
- OMF Save/export

tazio wrote on 6/23/2006, 5:15 PM

Region (not event) selection using [ & ] while holding shift key. Was there in 5 but disappeared in 6

Geoff_Wood wrote on 6/23/2006, 7:42 PM

So really just making Acid more Vegas-like would do the trick.

geoff

JeffreyPFisher wrote on 7/8/2006, 3:08 PM

There already is a lock feature, right-click an event, go to Switches, and select Lock. Multiple events can be locked/unlocked as needed. A whole track lock would be a nice shortcut, too!

JPF

ziggly wrote on 8/22/2006, 10:48 PM

any predictions?
with the full list of Vegas 7 featues yet to be released,
how much of whats been asked for in this thread
do you think the developers actually listened too
and implemented?

Ziggly

ziggly wrote on 8/28/2006, 10:09 PM

is this gonna be a big September for Vegas audio users, or no?
i am sure lots of you will be vocal later...so lets hear it.

if you are the sort of user who's going to buy Vegas 7 no matter what,
then feature requests to you are just a formality.

this thread contains a list of features ppl "want", but which of these
features do you think Sony should include as a bear minimum for
the audio users who have continued to support thier product.

randygo wrote on 8/30/2006, 10:49 AM

>is this gonna be a big September for Vegas audio users, or no?

No. I'll likely be passing on this upgrade.

ziggly wrote on 9/16/2006, 1:34 PM

BWF import, but no BWF export is this correct?

no folder tracks?

not much on this this thread made it in to version 7?
i wonder why...

so uh.. how is the new dvd-a 4?

ziggly wrote on 9/18/2006, 10:29 PM

Is it too early for Vegas 8 requests?

not much in this thread made it into Vegas 7, your thoughts
as to why that is...