Vegas 8.0b keeps hanging using up ALL my memory.

RedSlug wrote on 4/30/2008, 11:17 PM
I went to a racetrack recently and took some video. I put everything together, mainly MPG files from a hard disk camera. SD quality.

Not many, maybe about 3 minutes worth.

The problem is, whenever I load the project file into my PC, within a few minutes Vegas starts eating all the available memory, while in a hung state. It gradually tries to get more and more memery, until it can't get anymore, then it releases the memory, but stays in the hung state.

There is nothing I can do bar kill the process.

Here is the .veg file. http://hyperfileshare.com/d/ec11a016

----Background---
I was using a 3.2Ghz single core machine with 2GB memory on Vista.
Because of the problems I was getting, I thought it was (correctly) using too much memory, I bought a new machine.
Now I have a quad core machine with 3GB memory running vista, and I still have the exact same problem.
Files taken from a Sony HDR-SR1 camcorder.

Comments

farss wrote on 5/1/2008, 6:06 AM
Sorry for your troubles and I suspect not much can be done.
You could try turning off Thumbnails and Waveforms under View.
You'll need to just open Vegas first, make the change and then open your project.
I'll download your project file and see if there's anyway you could rejig it to avoid the memory munchies, it'll take a day though as my lone V8 machine is in the middle of a long render.

Bob.
farss wrote on 5/1/2008, 6:43 AM
I can't see anything in your project that should cause Vegas to crash.
However a couple of things that seem odd.
Your projects audio is set to 44.1KHz, should match whatever your camera records which is most likely 48KHz.
You seem to be in the UK, so why is your project set to a NTSC frame rate?
Your project frame size is very small, is there some reason for this?

I see your camera records in AVC, I've not had much exposure to that codec apart from a couple of cameras we bought and sold very quickly.

Bob.

PS. Probably not such a good look asking people to download your files from a site you have to register to download the file. The .veg files are tiny and can be emailed.
rmack350 wrote on 5/1/2008, 7:39 AM
What is your ram preview memory set to in prefs?

Rob Mack
RedSlug wrote on 5/1/2008, 12:25 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments..

Bob: My project set to a NTSC frame rate, because YouTube requires a 30f/s file, and this is partly the reason why my project frame size is so small. Parlty for Youtube, but mainly I reduced it to that in order to use less memory and stop the crashing. it didn't help of course. Idealy I'd have a larger frame size, and render to a small size when needed.
Although my camcorder can do AVCHD, this project was recorded in MPEG with sony's 5.1 sound bits added.

Apologies for having to register to download the veg file. I have a new PC and all my passwords have not been recovered yet, else i would have uploaded them onto my webserver.


Rob: My "Dynamic RAM Preview Max" is 128MB (Max available is 1024MB) Is this too small?

Thanks again.
rmack350 wrote on 5/1/2008, 12:40 PM
It's not too small. Small can't really hurt you. I was wondering if it was too big. It isn't.

Rob
RedSlug wrote on 5/1/2008, 12:46 PM
I see, thanks for suggesting that, even if it's not the problem.

I wonder if there is a way to output a list of the video files used. Maybe I could try to re-create my VEG file. Whenever I try to see what files I have used, it's not long before Vegas hangs, making it a very frustrating experience.

Edit: ....Actually, farss, would you do me a HUGE favour and quickly jot down the video file names? it would save me a lot of anguish!

I realise it's a lot to ask a stranger on a forum, but if I can return the favour I will :-)
rmack350 wrote on 5/1/2008, 3:40 PM
Might be easy to copy out of the edit details window. In your case, move the files first and tell Vegas to leave them offline when it asks for them.

Rob
Harold Brown wrote on 5/1/2008, 9:15 PM
I was having a problem with Vegas eating up memory and not responding and eventually my machine would hang. Right now I think it is caused by a Seagate Free Agent USB/eSATA external drive (500gig). I unplugged it yesterday and used Vegas today and zero problems. I am running Vista Ultimate 32 on a quad with 4gig of memory. Explorer sees the drive with no problems and I can navigate through the files, etc. However, if I access video from it through Vegas the problem begins. Vegas gets sluggish and the memory it uses isn't released. Eventually Vista becomes unstable.
marks27 wrote on 5/1/2008, 10:31 PM
I believe this is to do with MPEG2 files -- Vegas (or the MainConcept plugin) seems to decode them into memory or something, and so they expand out filling all the RAM.

Interestingly, I took the troublesome clips I had and loaded them up into Vegas 7.0e -- no problems.

Depending on how many clips you are dealing with, you could try converting them to DV -- I have also done that in the past. Will also make your editing experience as lot smoother.

So, don't know why it is a problem in 8 went it wasn't in 7. Possibly due to a change in the plugin.

I think the solution ia workflow work-around rather than changing settings in Vegas itself.

Ciao,

marks
farss wrote on 5/2/2008, 1:04 AM
If you still need this I can email it to you no problems however your email address isn't in your profile so you'll have to email me first, you can contact me through my profile.

Did you try turning off waveforms and thumbnails?

Bob.
cazeaux wrote on 5/2/2008, 11:29 AM
I had the same issue using HDV, a canon HV20 and HDVSPLIT.

When I started to use the Vegas internal capture, everything went fine (no more issues with pictures, neither with rendering)
RedSlug wrote on 5/4/2008, 8:30 AM
Thank you all for your suggestions and help. And sorry for not replying sooner, as I have been away for the weekend,

I tried loading the veg file again today and it didn't crash immediately. I quicky made the changes I needed to, and rendered the video ASAP.

As a result I've got what I needed out of this video. i.e. Youtube video.

Thank you VERY much, again, for all your helpful suggestions. I think I must have had a corrupt VEG file, or a corrupt MPG file, but it doesn't matter now. Since then, I've tried again with different MPG files with no crashes. So i think Veags 8 is OK :)

Cheers,