Vegas 8 crashes - presumed to be a NEO issue

Terje wrote on 9/10/2007, 1:29 AM
So, I have some Cineform HD encoded video that I have been playing around with in Vegas 7. I doubt this is an issue with the trial, but if it is, Sony should inform us about it ASAP. I am not upgrading to 8 at this stage.

Symptom: Add a Cineform HD encoded AVI to the Vegas 8 timeline. Result, Vegas 8 crashes instantly, no error message or anything. Instant death.

Edit: This seems to happen with 60i encoded video only at this stage. Looking into it some more.

Edit 2: More strange stuff... The AVIs were captured using Cineform NEO. If I try to open any of them in Vegas 8, it will crash instantly. Opening them in 7 is not a problem.

Here comes the weirdness. If I open one of them in Vegas 7 and render as Cineform Intermediate 60i, Vegas 7 will not re-compress the video, it will simply copy the video stream to the newly rendered AVI.

This AVI I can open in Vegas 8 no problem.

I am currently tempted to lay the entire blame on NEO, which I no longer use, so that is not going to be an issue.

Edit 3: Changed header to reflect that I now believe this to be a NEO issue.

Final edit (I think): This clearly appears to be a NEO issue. I have posted a bad (and the smallest I have) AVI on my website if you want to play around with it. This opens fine in Vegas 7, Windows Media Player, and others, but it crashes Vegas 8 instantly (at least on my PC). Note that there appears to be a couple of things wrong with this one, the aspect ratio is also set wrongly in the AVI. If you want to try it out, download this: http://terje.bergesen.info/v8-killer.avi

I'd be interested to see if anyone can find out what the issue is, just for my curiosity.

Now, I wouldn't mind if Vegas, when encountering a file like this, at least was graceful enough to reject it or something. The instant death doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me, but I realize this may not be a Vegas issue, but an codec DLL issue.

Comments

Zelkien69 wrote on 9/10/2007, 1:47 AM
I added an Cineform AVI that was HDV 30F from a Canon XH-A1 with no problems. Running Win XP.

Also, It's Cineform Version 2.8 rather than 2.5 so there was some tweaking to VP8 on the intermeddiates.
mark-woollard wrote on 9/10/2007, 2:36 AM
Terje

I don't know if this well fix your problem, but the Vegas 8 Release Notes say:

The CineForm codec that is installed with Vegas 8 is unavailable unless your Windows user account is a member of the Administrators group. To open or render CineForm AVI files, please log on using an account with Administrator privileges.

If you are encountering stability issues with the CineForm codec that was installed with the CineForm Connect HD product, please install the latest update of Connect HD, available at the CineForm Web site.

Mark
MRe wrote on 9/10/2007, 2:44 AM
No problems here. I'll try the clip when it gets downloaded...

I've NEO 3.0.5 (I think).
MRe wrote on 9/10/2007, 2:59 AM
OK, now I downloaded & tested it: no problem, playback is full rate (29.97). Actually I run it first as PAL (25 fps) and it worked OK.

And yes, I do have NEO HDV installed.
Terje wrote on 9/10/2007, 3:08 AM
Weird, just plain weird. Maybe time to check my RAM...