Vegas atomos ninja headache

cal79 wrote on 10/21/2015, 5:11 AM

Can anyone tell me if Vegas actually officially supports the atomos ninja or not? any time I import files the system locks up.. it's ok if I bring in 1 or 2 files.. but try bringing a bunch of them and the system is crippled.. sucks big time. File type is dnxhd files.

Cal

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OldSmoke wrote on 10/21/2015, 9:04 AM

cal79

The problem is that Vegas relies on Quicktime for Windows to rad those files and that has a memory issue. Try to use an alternative to Quicktime, there is one just Google it or convert the DNxHD files to something Vegas likes. MXF files which are usually MPEG format or XAVC if you need better resolution. You can try the free Catalyst Browse for conversion or you pay for Catalyst Prepare.

Eagle Six wrote on 10/21/2015, 10:11 AM

cal79......I cannot comment on the "official" part. I can tell you I have been working with DNxHD 220x files for several months. These come from my Samurai Blade (same as the Ninja). I'm using Sony Movie Studio Platinum 13 (build 955), on a very old and slow duo core E8400 system. I don't know how large your clips are, or how many is a lot. I typically bring in 8-10 clips at a time which are 20-30 gb, maybe bigger. Then load them onto the time line.

OldSmoke.......I recently downloaded the Catalyst Browse for evaluation. It's does not want to recognize my ProRes HQ, DNxHD220x, or GoPro files. When I try to view them in the player, the error is "missing, offline, or unsupported".

Best Regards.....George

OldSmoke wrote on 10/21/2015, 10:46 AM

The problem starts beyond 8-10 and depends on the size and of the clips. Quicktime for windows is still 32bit and never been updated properly. There are many users in this forum that report the same issues. I tested it a long time ago with a large number of DNxHD files and got the same errors, Vegas will either hang, freeze or crash.

I think only Catalyst Prepare can handle ProRes files but not sure, I dont have one to test with.

I actually avoid anything that has todo with ProRes or Apple related files inlcuding DNxHD. I very much prefere XAVC Intra as that plays very well with Vegas.

JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/21/2015, 8:42 PM

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

If you buy a camera or recording device that shoots QuickTime ProRes, you should also buy a Mac because that manufacturer could care less if Vegas Pro can open or edit any of it's files. Clearly it has not been tested. They are designing Mac hardware for Mac users.

If you insist on buying these devices you have to be prepare to transcode all of your files to some format that can easily be ingested by Vegas Pro.

So one man's "Vegas atomos ninja headache" is another man's "Final Cut Pro ninja editing dream" ;-)

I would convert them to Sony MXF files.

~jr

astar wrote on 10/21/2015, 9:03 PM

Like John and others say above, convert your media to Sony MXF >HDCAM-SR or SR-Lite = ProRes HQ. HDCAM is an intra frame MPEG4 that is highly optimized in Vegas.

Clearly the conversions need to happen in 32-bit Video Level mode in order to maintain the 10-bit info.

XAVC-I is an alternative to HDCAM, however, XAVC is a high profile AVC codec that has greater decompression overhead than HDCAM.