Vegas Crashes Have Stopped All Production

KenBennett wrote on 7/25/2010, 5:38 PM
I first got Vegas Pro 8 (32bit-WIN XP) last year to start to learn it (very limited time), between all my normal editing on my "other" NLE. I didn't have any crashes in my learning. I then got Pro 9 and went through 9.0a, 9.0b and 9.0c and I edited a 2-cam wedding ceremony using multicam with no crashes. Then I upgraded to WIN 7 64-bit. and Vegas Pro 9.0e 64-bit. At the same time I did some computer hardware changes. Removed 2 external SCSI RAID boxes, replaced with one new SATA RAID box and installed 2 new RocketRAID cards to handle internal and external RAIDs. Then I put Vegas Pro 9.0e into full production.... and the crashes started. There are so many crashes and issues that it's impossible to get anything edited.

I've got the computer power: Supermicro X7DWA-N, dual Xeon 2.83GHz, 8 cores, 16GB RAM dual channel, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT, WIN 7 64-bit, Vegas Pro 9.0e 64-bit, DirectX 10, QT 7.2.0, Adobe Production Suite CS4 and VideoToaster VT[5].

The problems: crashes when Vegas captured clips are dropped in time line (25% of the time); will swap clips in the time line with other clips from different bins upon reloading the project; will crash when adjusting clips for slo-mo or in/out points far too many times.

My only thought is when Vegas captures clips (from HDV tape), 25% of them are being corrupted. Someone suggest wiping the internal RAID clean (where all my video files are) and reformat. (It is right now a RAID-10 and will be reformated to a RAID-5). Do I recapture everything all over again?

Does 9.0e have problems? Should I go back to 9.0d or c or b or a? I really like working in Vegas and don't want to chuck it and start looking for yet another NLE.

Thanks for any feedback. The sooner the better.

Comments

TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/25/2010, 5:50 PM
well, if it worked before & you changed your hardware & now it doesn't work, it's not vegas. :) It's something you did. You changed your OS & drive setup, your Vegas version, etc.
If it always happens when you're handling clips then I'd say it's something with your storage. Drive messed up, capture bad, etc. Blanking the whole thing could do some good.
musicvid10 wrote on 7/25/2010, 8:07 PM
There is no purpose I know of to capture (or edit) HDV to RAID, and several reasons not to that were identified years ago. Go back to a single-disc capture, make sure your camcorder heads are clean and you have a good firewire cable, and try again. Any SATA drive (or even a fast EIDE) will easily handle the throughput.

QT 7.2.0
Did you mean that? Vegas 9.0e is compatible up to 7.6.6.
KenBennett wrote on 7/25/2010, 8:54 PM
I was told by other Vegas users that QT 7.6.6 causes problems so I stepped back to 7.6.0.

I've always used RAID drives for video capture, edit, speed and quality playback for VideoToaster and have always assumed it would be the same for other NLEs.
musicvid10 wrote on 7/25/2010, 9:16 PM
Vegas Pro 9.0d was upgraded to work with QT 7.6.4.
Vegas Pro 9.0e was upgraded to work with QT 7.6.6.

You just said you have 7.6.0, not 7.2.0 as you said previously.
Quicktime 7.6.0 should work just fine with any version of Vegas Pro 8 or 9.

That being said, my raised eyebrows were just an aside. Your Quicktime version has absolutely nothing to do with HDV capture or editing.

I appreciate the fact that you have captured and edited HDV successfully to RAID in the past, before you changed your system and hardware.

Vegas does not work with, or work like, Toaster hardware or software. So go ahead and capture and edit to Vegas using a plain 'ol disc, not an array. Report back with your results, whether conclusive or not. If not, at least you've ruled out one possibility. If so, you can start troubleshooting your array.

I work with HDV practically glitch-free on a cheap dual-core Vista notebook.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 7/25/2010, 9:35 PM
RAID is unlikely to give you any benefit wrt "speed and quality playback" over a single good 7200rpm HDD, whatever OS or PC or application.

Rule #1, only ever change one thing at a time, where possible !

geoff.
farss wrote on 7/25/2010, 10:30 PM
"will swap clips in the time line with other clips from different bins upon reloading the project;"

Over the years there's been multiple reports of this problem. Different versions of Vegas etc, etc. This has happened to me twice so far and it can be a major problem to fix when it happens.
Crashes, well I can live with them to some extent but the problem of corrupted project files is a show stopper.

The best advice I can give to avoid this problem is to avoid doing Undos. It seems to have some connection to the Undo buffer. Also save regularly to incrementing project versions.

Regarding your general crashing problems, to state the obvious check all your hardware, especially RAM. Since 9.0e came out I haven't had any crashes but I am staying with WinXP 32 for a while longer.

Bob.