VEGAS Effects is so easy to have no response

lan-mLMC wrote on 12/17/2019, 2:45 AM

Is anyone has the same idea as me?

I have installed all necessary module such as C++ runtime, directX runtime, codecs, dot NET framework and so on. Why is it so easy to have no response?

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bitman wrote on 12/17/2019, 7:18 AM

Maybe you have : Boris continuum OFX (any version) installed on your system.

Also an issue if you have very old newblue titler 2 OFX left overs in the plugin folder.

I have been chasing the Vegas team, Boris team and hitfilm team for the unability to work together for half a year now.

Vegas post is not compatible with Boris continuum, and is not fixed in the new update of Vegas post (build 387), nor in the new updated (of this week) versions of Vegas image nor Vegas effects...

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lan-mLMC wrote on 12/17/2019, 7:28 AM

Maybe you have : Boris continuum OFX (any version) installed on your system.

Also an issue if you have very old newblue titler 2 OFX left overs in the plugin folder.

I have been chasing the Vegas team, Boris team and hitfilm team for the unability to work together for half a year now.

Vegas post is not compatible with Boris continuum, and is not fixed in the new update of Vegas post (build 387), nor in the new updated (of this week) versions of Vegas image nor Vegas effects...

I have move all the common files' OFX plugin to VEGAS Pro' directory's ofx plugin folder. But VE still often has no response...

fr0sty wrote on 12/17/2019, 3:31 PM

It's working fine for me, after disabling the new blue plugin in my ofx folder. I haven't tested since the update to see if I can re-enable that plugin yet. I haven't had a single crash since, though.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

fr0sty wrote on 12/25/2019, 12:33 AM

None of us are having the issues you are having, so it's hard to help with a problem we cannot reproduce. If you can specify something you can do that makes Vegas Effects crash, that might help us, or if you can post a .vegfx project file that causes a crash, that too might help, but otherwise we're scratching our heads trying to figure out a way to help.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

lan-mLMC wrote on 12/25/2019, 1:44 AM

None of us are having the issues you are having, so it's hard to help with a problem we cannot reproduce. If you can specify something you can do that makes Vegas Effects crash, that might help us, or if you can post a .vegfx project file that causes a crash, that too might help, but otherwise we're scratching our heads trying to figure out a way to help.

I will find a time to reinstaller my OS. hope it will solve the problem.

wwjd wrote on 12/27/2019, 6:46 AM

Step 1: disable so4compound.dll

fr0sty wrote on 12/27/2019, 10:53 AM

Kinda like hearing "I have a headache" and replying "step one, shoot up some morphine." So4 can and does cause a lot of people a lot of issues, but it works for many as well, and disabling it comes at a cost of removing functionality some of us need, so it should be recommended as one of the later steps, not starting off.

Ian, until you describe to us what is happening when your program malfunctions, which you can learn how to do by reading the information in this thread: (https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/), we can't help you. Just hearing that your software is freezing/crashing isn't enough information to get us started.

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fred-w wrote on 12/27/2019, 1:02 PM

alextudm95 wrote on 12/27/2019, 7:14 AM

"I have to agree with this. (People moving AWAY from VEGAS, as per now locked thread) My only suggestion to Magix is to stop making new version of VEGAS Pro, but fully remake the whole system to be more stable & reliable like other NLE.
when VEGAS Pro 17 is being promoted with the new screen capture, it doesnt work till today."

_______________________________^^^ THIS ^^^^ ___________________________________

This is what I've been saying for years, STABILITY FIRST...
All the silly add ons don't add up to a hill of beans versus stablity and an improved, smoother GUI (which is Vegas strength, inherently, but it's only been slightly improved over the years, victim of its own "success??" perhaps.

and although some of the comments on the now "locked" other thread on this subject may not all be spot on, ^^^^THIS ^^^^^ Idea has GOT TO BE REITERATED.... PLEASE PEOPLE, quit focusing on the candy apple paint job and window tint when the engine is blown.

 

Reyfox wrote on 12/27/2019, 1:50 PM

Came here from the other thread on crashing. I am using the latest build for VP17. I had to disable So4 and all has been well for me ever since. I have full Boris Continuum 2020 and it's working so far... ok.

For timeline fast editing, I really like Vegas, but do feel the pain of those who have experienced crashes. VP16 was solid for me. Same as VP15. So I waited for a patch to come out before being an early adopter to VP17, which came with some nice features I was interested in.

So hoping that AMD support and even more stability come with the next update.

As for those that say "stability first", no argument from me! But that is not what sells. And sadly, by the time most bugs are squashed, new people have been turned off and old users start to have wandering eyes. I sat on the sidelines watching all the early posts on VP17 thinking I'll skip it. But I took a chance (a Black Friday Christmas gift to myself). Yes, some stumbling along the way, but I am satisfied with the stability so far.

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karma17 wrote on 12/27/2019, 10:48 PM

Step one for headache! LOL.

bitman wrote on 12/28/2019, 2:44 AM

@lan-mLMC I am not sure we have the same issue, but if it is a case of Vegas effects not launching (or better "not seem to be appearing" to launch, or even briefly visible launching and then disappearing) may be due to OFX, as you already guessed by the suggestion given before. In your post I see that you moved some common OFX to Vegas folders trying to solve the issue, but I do not think this will not work. What does work is finding out which OFX is offending and then temporary re-naming or removing the particular OFX in it's original folder. Eventually this will make Vegas Effects launch (if all incompatible OFX's are renamed or removed), but you will lose the OFX in Vegas (and possibly other NLE's). So until they fix this, it is really choosing between the OFX plugin or Vegas Effects. By the way launching Vegas effects as a stand-alone has the same issue.

Unfortunatly Vegas itself does not crash or indicates what is wrong, however Vegas effects does crash, it is just not visible as there is no feed-back. However you can find which OFX is causing the issue is using the windows tool "event viewer" build in every windows version:

 

 

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bitman wrote on 12/28/2019, 2:57 AM

On my system, following files need a rename or remove to make Vegas effects launch successfully.

Obviously, I would loose Boris (and newblue titler pro 2) functionality by doing so, which in case of Boris is unacceptable (I do not care about the old newblue titler)...

C:\Program Files\BorisFX\ContinuumOFX\13\lib\Continuum_OFX_8Bit.dll
C:\Program Files\BorisFX\ContinuumOFX\13\lib\Continuum_OFX_Float.dll
C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins\NewBlueFX\TitlerPro2.ofx.bundle\Contents\Win64\TitlerPro2.ofx

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lan-mLMC wrote on 12/28/2019, 2:58 AM

it is just not visible as there is no feed-back. However you can find which OFX is causing the issue is using the windows tool "event viewer" build in every windows version:

 

 

Wow,thanks!It seems to be a excellent solution to find out which ofx to cause the no response!

set wrote on 12/28/2019, 3:49 AM

thanks for info, I found in my desktop that TitlerPro2.ofx is the issue.

 

Something unique on my experiment: I installed TitlerPro on both of my systems, but, something confusing me is that, here in my old i950 system, I cannot run it as I need to move out the problematic OFX... BUT, when ran on my ROG laptop system, it works! Unfortunately, click and dragging that ofx in my ROG system will cause the Vegas Effects freezed and closed. So in the end, it is the same issue - but, can 'pass' during Vegas Effects loading. 😕

This also includes my collections of Continuum Light 12.

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