Vegas hangs when recording more than 13 tracks

jdupre wrote on 12/10/2000, 6:12 PM
Has anyone experienced Vegas Audio hanging when attempting
to record more than 13 tracks under Win98SE???

This happens all the time: If I enable 16 mono tracks and
start recording, when I press the stop button nothing
happens (the program continues to record as evidenced by
disk activity, but the user interface is frozen). Doing a
ctrl-alt-del to open the task manager shows that Vegas is
no longer responding. The only way to to stop recording is
to kill the Vegas task, which of course does not close the
recorded files properly so the recording session is useless.

If I reduce the number of channels down to 13 Vegas doesn't
hang anymore, but I get glitchy audio if I record for too
long (+45 minutes).

This DOES NOT happen under Windows 2000 SP1.

I have repeated this problem both with Frontier Design's
Dakota and RME's Hammerfall sound cards. I have also tried
changing to a non-fancy "generic" video card, but no
difference. This haniging problem has happened since the
original release of Vegas 1.0 all the way up to the current
2.0b. (And with several different installs of Win98).

- Joe

Comments

Rednroll wrote on 12/10/2000, 8:10 PM
Sounds like a hard drive problem. 13 simultaneous tracks
of recording is a lot. The cool thing about Vegas is that
it doesn't have any limitations as far as tracks go, but if
your system can't handle what you're throwing at it, then
bad things will happen. You'll have to post all your
system components like processor speed, hard drive, video
card, RAM, I/O routings..etc..etc., and maybe we can help
you find the problem. My system will record 30
simultaneous tracks before it runs into the problems you're
experiencing, so I doubt Vegas is the problem.

Joe Dupre wrote:
>>Has anyone experienced Vegas Audio hanging when
attempting
>>to record more than 13 tracks under Win98SE???
>>
>>This happens all the time: If I enable 16 mono tracks
and
>>start recording, when I press the stop button nothing
>>happens (the program continues to record as evidenced by
>>disk activity, but the user interface is frozen). Doing
a
>>ctrl-alt-del to open the task manager shows that Vegas is
>>no longer responding. The only way to to stop recording
is
>>to kill the Vegas task, which of course does not close
the
>>recorded files properly so the recording session is
useless.
>>
>>If I reduce the number of channels down to 13 Vegas
doesn't
>>hang anymore, but I get glitchy audio if I record for too
>>long (+45 minutes).
>>
>>This DOES NOT happen under Windows 2000 SP1.
>>
>>I have repeated this problem both with Frontier Design's
>>Dakota and RME's Hammerfall sound cards. I have also
tried
>>changing to a non-fancy "generic" video card, but no
>>difference. This haniging problem has happened since the
>>original release of Vegas 1.0 all the way up to the
current
>>2.0b. (And with several different installs of Win98).
>>
>>- Joe
>>
jdupre wrote on 12/12/2000, 9:15 PM


Brian Franz wrote:
>>Sounds like a hard drive problem. 13 simultaneous tracks
>>of recording is a lot. The cool thing about Vegas is

I hope you're not with the Sonic Foundry support team. If
you read my post completely you would have found that my
system records 16 tracks fine with Vegas under Windows
2000. It does not work under under Win98SE on the same
machine.

This is not a hard drive problem. This is not a hardware
problem. It is a software (or hardware driver) problem.
And since I experience the same problem with two different
audio cards I suspect that the problem is Vegas.

I appologise with the "flaming" nature of this post but I
have practically used up all of my "support" resources and
this problem has been unsolved for over 9 months now. I
have tested this stuff with different motherboards,
different video cards, different audio boards, and
different recording software. The bottom line is that I
have been unable to get Vegas to record 16 mono tracks
without crashing. Other software works fine.

- Joe

Rednroll wrote on 12/13/2000, 1:35 PM
Sorry for the misunderstanding. And I am in no way
affiliated with SF. I feel your frustration, I've been
there before. I'm running win98SE and like I said, I'm
able to record 30 simultaneous tracks with Vegas. I'm also
using a Seagate Cheetah SCSI drive to do so. Do you really
have 16 inputs going into your system? If you do, then
that might be part of your problem. You have a lot of I/O
going on. The first thing you want to do is uncheck
the "Simultaneos Record& Playback". The next thing is to
check the "disable Video Playback" option. Once you do
this, you will find that Vegas will probably respond very
quickly and have no problem recording 16 simultaneous
tracks. My system has 8 inputs and 20 outputs, and
although I'm not using all of them, if you have busses set
up for them in Vegas, Vegas has to eat up valuable
resources for all this I/O. I believe windows 2000,
supports data streams going to the hard drive much better
than Windows 98, so this could be the difference in
performance.

My next question is, instead of taking the time to flame at
me for trying to help you, why don't you take the time and
tell us about your system, so others like me can help you
solve your problem? I originally suspected a hard drive
problem, because if you're running an IDE hard drive, the
fact is that although IDE is now much faster , it can still
only give data in one direction at a time (ie...it can only
read or write at any particular time) SCSI can do
simultaneous Read and Write.

Joe Dupre wrote:
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>Sounds like a hard drive problem. 13 simultaneous
tracks
>>>>of recording is a lot. The cool thing about Vegas is
>>
>>I hope you're not with the Sonic Foundry support team.
If
>>you read my post completely you would have found that my
>>system records 16 tracks fine with Vegas under Windows
>>2000. It does not work under under Win98SE on the same
>>machine.
>>
>>This is not a hard drive problem. This is not a hardware
>>problem. It is a software (or hardware driver) problem.
>>And since I experience the same problem with two
different
>>audio cards I suspect that the problem is Vegas.
>>
>>I appologise with the "flaming" nature of this post but I
>>have practically used up all of my "support" resources
and
>>this problem has been unsolved for over 9 months now. I
>>have tested this stuff with different motherboards,
>>different video cards, different audio boards, and
>>different recording software. The bottom line is that I
>>have been unable to get Vegas to record 16 mono tracks
>>without crashing. Other software works fine.
>>
>>- Joe
>>
>>
brettsherman wrote on 12/14/2000, 10:16 AM
Just because it works in Win2000 and not in 98 is not an
implication of Vegas. It could be an OS/hardware problem.
In other words, you're probably running into a bottleneck
with your hardware. But Win2000 handles disk access a
little better. Clearly others are able to record 13 or more
tracks in Win98. So it has to be something particular to
your system.

Brett Sherman