Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that this
person might have tried that and in the same amount of words you may
have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what he
already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the
help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated synth
manual.

Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search
on "Pre-
>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event using
time
>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need there.
>>
>>KAC ...
>>
>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I
>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post
>>>>rolls? Thanks.

First, learn to read before you post ... there was clearly a question
at the top of my reply ... it was put there to elicit a response if
what followed was NOT in regard to what he was looking for.

Secondly, there is a diagram in the help file that answers the
question more clearly than words ever could.

Thirdly, why don't YOU answer the question instead of wasting space
taking me to task for at least attempting to help him out?

KAC ...

Carl Edwards wrote:
>>Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that
this
>>person might have tried that and in the same amount of words you
may
>>have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what he
>>already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the
>>help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated synth
>>manual.
>>
>>Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search
>>on "Pre-
>>>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event using
>>time
>>>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need
there.
>>>>
>>>>KAC ...
>>>>
>>>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I
>>>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post
>>>>>>rolls? Thanks.

Looking back on your posts, you are not exactly a fountain of
information yourself!

>>I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the
>>help files.
Obvious, from your very first post.

The first place anyone should be directed to is the help files and
manual so as not to waste someone's time answering questions.

Try it. Maybe then you won't be so quick to take issue with someone
who has, and is actually trying to help.

Willg

Carl Edwards wrote:
>>Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that
this
>>person might have tried that and in the same amount of words you
may
>>have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what he
>>already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the
>>help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated synth
>>manual.
>>
>>Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search
>>on "Pre-
>>>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event using
>>time
>>>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need
there.
>>>>
>>>>KAC ...
>>>>
>>>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I
>>>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post
>>>>>>rolls? Thanks.

Whoa...easy guys. I guess I should have made it more clear in my
original post, but the manual and help file just display a picture
showing what pre/post roll means. I knew what it meant, I just
wanted to know *how* to do it in Vegas. If I was looking for a
definition of pre/post roll, then yes, the help file pic would be
much better than words, but that's not what I need. Sorry for the
confusion.

Will Gallant wrote:
>>Looking back on your posts, you are not exactly a fountain of
>>information yourself!
>>
>>>>I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the
>>>>help files. >>
>>Obvious, from your very first post.
>>
>>The first place anyone should be directed to is the help files and
>>manual so as not to waste someone's time answering questions.
>>
>>Try it. Maybe then you won't be so quick to take issue with someone
>>who has, and is actually trying to help.
>>
>>Willg
>>
>>Carl Edwards wrote:
>>>>Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that
>>this
>>>>person might have tried that and in the same amount of words you
>>may
>>>>have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what he
>>>>already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or
the
>>>>help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated
synth
>>>>manual.
>>>>
>>>>Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>>>>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search
>>>>on "Pre-
>>>>>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event using
>>>>time
>>>>>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need
>>there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KAC ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>>>>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I
>>>>>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post
>>>>>>>>rolls? Thanks.

Hi Robby,

Your question was actually answered (at least the way you asked it)
in that very picture that you call the "definition" ... besides being
answered in the second sentence of my original reply. As I originally replied, you normally make a "Time Selection" to determine pre and post roll times. :) Furthermore, here what is stated in the manual: "You may record into a selected event within a time selection. This option allows you to add for pre- and post- roll during recording. The time selection is adjustable to increase or decrease the pre- and post- roll. During recording, the selected event's edges are the punch-in (when recording starts) and punch-out (when recording stops). That picture, IMO, is itself worth a thousand words. :) In short, it is there in both the manual and the help file ... happy reading. Now, if you are talking about something else, you will have to rephrase your question and be more specific. Hope this helps. KAC .. Robby Spears wrote: >>Whoa...easy guys. I guess I should have made it more clear in my >>original post, but the manual and help file just display a picture >>showing what pre/post roll means. I knew what it meant, I just >>wanted to know *how* to do it in Vegas. If I was looking for a >>definition of pre/post roll, then yes, the help file pic would be >>much better than words, but that's not what I need. Sorry for the >>confusion. >> >>Will Gallant wrote: >>>>Looking back on your posts, you are not exactly a fountain of >>>>information yourself! >>>> >>>>>>I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the >>>>>>help files. >>>> >>>>Obvious, from your very first post. >>>> >>>>The first place anyone should be directed to is the help files and >>>>manual so as not to waste someone's time answering questions. >>>> >>>>Try it. Maybe then you won't be so quick to take issue with someone >>>>who has, and is actually trying to help. >>>> >>>>Willg >>>> >>>>Carl Edwards wrote: >>>>>>Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that >>>>this >>>>>>person might have tried that and in the same amount of words you >>>>may >>>>>>have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what he >>>>>>already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or >>the >>>>>>help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated >>synth >>>>>>manual. >>>>>> >>>>>>Karl Caillouet wrote: >>>>>>>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search >>>>>>on "Pre- >>>>>>>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event using >>>>>>time >>>>>>>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need >>>>there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>KAC ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Robby Spears wrote: >>>>>>>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I >>>>>>>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post >>>>>>>>>>rolls? Thanks.

Yea, I've checked out the help file. But I still don't understand
HOW to get a pre/post roll in there. I select the region I want to
punch-in. Then I enable recording on that track. Now, how do I get
a pre-roll? If I adjust the region, then that also adjusts the
region that gets recorded. Based upon what the manual says, as you
quoted below, I'm correct. Check it out: "The time selection is
adjustable to increase or decrease the pre- and post- roll." now,
this: "the selected event's edges are the punch-in and punch-out".
So if I adjust the time selection to accomodate a pre-roll, the time
selection edges also reflect the beginning of the punch-in. This
doesn't make sense to me - it sounds like I can't independently
change the start of the pre-roll and the start of the punch-in. I
hate to be a pain in the ass, but if you can do this, could you gimme
some sort of step-by-step? Thanks.

Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>Hi Robby,
>>
>>Your question was actually answered (at least the way you asked it)
>>in that very picture that you call the "definition". >> >>As I stated in my original reply, you normally make a "Time >>Selection" to determine pre and post roll. >> >>Here what is stated in the manual: >> >>"You may record into a selected event within a time selection. This >>option allows you to add for pre- and post- roll during recording. >>The time selection is adjustable to increase or decrease the pre- and >>post- roll. During recording, the selected event's edges are the >>punch-in (when recording starts) and punch-out (when recording stops). >> >>That picture, IMO, is itself worth a thousand words. :) >> >>In short, it is there in both the manual and the help file ... happy >>reading. >> >>Now, if you are talking about something else, you will have to >>rephrase your question and be more specific. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>KAC .. >> >>Robby Spears wrote: >>>>Whoa...easy guys. I guess I should have made it more clear in my >>>>original post, but the manual and help file just display a picture >>>>showing what pre/post roll means. I knew what it meant, I just >>>>wanted to know *how* to do it in Vegas. If I was looking for a >>>>definition of pre/post roll, then yes, the help file pic would be >>>>much better than words, but that's not what I need. Sorry for the >>>>confusion. >>>> >>>>Will Gallant wrote: >>>>>>Looking back on your posts, you are not exactly a fountain of >>>>>>information yourself! >>>>>> >>>>>>>>I myself don't get a clue from the manual or the >>>>>>>>help files. >>>>>> >>>>>>Obvious, from your very first post. >>>>>> >>>>>>The first place anyone should be directed to is the help files >>and >>>>>>manual so as not to waste someone's time answering questions. >>>>>> >>>>>>Try it. Maybe then you won't be so quick to take issue with >>someone >>>>>>who has, and is actually trying to help. >>>>>> >>>>>>Willg >>>>>> >>>>>>Carl Edwards wrote: >>>>>>>>Karl I realize that you are "help" boy, but it seems to me that >>>>>>this >>>>>>>>person might have tried that and in the same amount of words >>you >>>>>>may >>>>>>>>have been able to explain it instead of telling him to do what >>he >>>>>>>>already has done. I myself don't get a clue from the manual or >>>>the >>>>>>>>help files. I'd rather read a japanese to english translated >>>>synth >>>>>>>>manual. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Karl Caillouet wrote: >>>>>>>>>>When recording? Normally using a time selection. Do a search >>>>>>>>on "Pre- >>>>>>>>>>Post roll", "Time Selection" and "Recording into an event >>using >>>>>>>>time >>>>>>>>>>selection" in the Help file ... you should find what you need >>>>>>there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>KAC ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Robby Spears wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>I've just started using vegas, and I love it so far. I >>>>>>>>>>>>have a question though, how do I insert pre and post >>>>>>>>>>>>rolls? Thanks.

Try "Splitting" the Event that you want to record into, both
beginning and end (use your cursor to alternately select the start
and stop on the Event that you want to record into, then hit the "s"
key) ... then overlap that with a Time Selection to adjust your pre
and post roll on either side of that Event.

Just like the picture shows. :)

KAC ..

Robby Spears wrote:
>>Yea, I've checked out the help file. But I still don't understand
>>HOW to get a pre/post roll in there. I select the region I want to
>>punch-in. Then I enable recording on that track. Now, how do I
get
>>a pre-roll? If I adjust the region, then that also adjusts the
>>region that gets recorded. Based upon what the manual says, as you
>>quoted below, I'm correct. Check it out: "The time selection is
>>adjustable to increase or decrease the pre- and post- roll." now,
>>this: "the selected event's edges are the punch-in and punch-
out".
>>So if I adjust the time selection to accomodate a pre-roll, the
time
>>selection edges also reflect the beginning of the punch-in. This
>>doesn't make sense to me - it sounds like I can't independently
>>change the start of the pre-roll and the start of the punch-in. I
>>hate to be a pain in the ass, but if you can do this, could you
gimme
>>some sort of step-by-step? Thanks.
? Thanks.

Thanks, I realize the picture showed it quite nicely, I just couldn't
figure out the actual process of doing it. I still don't know how to
do what you said below, that being adjusting the pre/post roll after
making a time selection, cuz I don't know how to insert the pre/post
roll to begin with. But regardless, I am a ninja - for I have
figured out another way. I did the split thing, like you said, for
the section I wanted to punch-in. Then, I right-clicked on the two
sections to the left and right of the punch-in section, go
to 'Switches' and then select 'Lock'. This locks the selections so
that cannot be recorded over. Then I just make my event selection
and record. Voila.


Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>Try "Splitting" the Event that you want to record into, both
>>beginning and end (use your cursor to alternately select the start
>>and stop on the Event that you want to record into, then hit
the "s"
>>key) ... then overlap that with a Time Selection to adjust your pre
>>and post roll on either side of that Event.
>>
>>Just like the picture shows. :)
>>
>>KAC ..
>>
>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>>>Yea, I've checked out the help file. But I still don't
understand
>>>>HOW to get a pre/post roll in there. I select the region I want
to
>>>>punch-in. Then I enable recording on that track. Now, how do I
>>get
>>>>a pre-roll? If I adjust the region, then that also adjusts the
>>>>region that gets recorded. Based upon what the manual says, as
you
>>>>quoted below, I'm correct. Check it out: "The time selection is
>>>>adjustable to increase or decrease the pre- and post- roll." now,
>>>>this: "the selected event's edges are the punch-in and punch-
>>out".
>>>>So if I adjust the time selection to accomodate a pre-roll, the
>>time
>>>>selection edges also reflect the beginning of the punch-in. This
>>>>doesn't make sense to me - it sounds like I can't independently
>>>>change the start of the pre-roll and the start of the punch-in.
I
>>>>hate to be a pain in the ass, but if you can do this, could you
>>gimme
>>>>some sort of step-by-step? Thanks.
>>? Thanks.

Hi Robby,

That will work, although it is sorta like walking around the block to
go next door. :)

I apologize ... I guess you must first know how to make a "time
selection".

One, of a half dozen, ways to do that is:

Left click on the "Marker Ruler" (the horizontal space just above the
Track View area) to the left of where you want to record and, while
holding the mouse button down, drag to the right, just past where you
want to stop recording, then release the mouse.

You have just made a "time selection".

See those little yellow arrows on the Marker Ruler on either end of
your "time selection" that point inward?

Adjust those puppies on either side of your Event for just the
desired amount of pre and post roll.

KAC ...


Robby Spears wrote:


>>But regardless, I am a ninja - for I have
>>figured out another way.

Think of the time selection as playback time vs. record time and then
select the events you wish to record into as defining the record
time. Unselected events will not be recorded into.

In the case that you don't have any events to record into, but you
still want a pre/post roll, you insert an empty event first. Make a
time selection and choose Empty Event from the Insert menu. You can
now use it to define the record time and the time selection to define
the playback time.

maybe that's a clearer way of stating it? Maybe not :)

Caleb

Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>Hi Robby,
>>
>>That will work, although it is sorta like walking around the block
to
>>go next door. :)
>>
>>I apologize ... I guess you must first know how to make a "time
>>selection".
>>
>>One, of a half dozen, ways to do that is:
>>
>>Left click on the "Marker Ruler" (the horizontal space just above
the
>>Track View area) to the left of where you want to record and, while
>>holding the mouse button down, drag to the right, just past where
you
>>want to stop recording, then release the mouse.
>>
>>You have just made a "time selection".
>>
>>See those little yellow arrows on the Marker Ruler on either end of
>>your "time selection" that point inward?
>>
>>Adjust those puppies on either side of your Event for just the
>>desired amount of pre and post roll.
>>
>>KAC ...
>>
>>
>>Robby Spears wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>But regardless, I am a ninja - for I have
>>>>figured out another way.

I don't know ... obviously some of us, like yours truly, are more
graphically oriented. :)

I took one look at the picture a few months back when trying to
figure out the same thing and went Bingo!

Meanwhile, I gotta get out of here and get some work done before I
get a W2 form from SF. :)

KAC ...

Caleb Pourchot wrote:
>>Think of the time selection as playback time vs. record time and

>>maybe that's a clearer way of stating it? Maybe not :)