I'm refering to Vegas Pro (as a multitrack AUDIO recorder/editor) not
to Vegas Video :)

Jason Robinson wrote:
>>If so I think you should take a closer look. I do not believe the
>>product bundle you mntioned does multi-track video editing with the
>>ease that Vegas Video does.
>>
>>Maybe I just misnderstood you though.
>>
>>Kob
>>
>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it suits
your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One Solution.
One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia III,
well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any
Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it.

In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you get (or
don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you pay
extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support, etc.

Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long? (Sorry,
Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.)

OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not the
best person to discuss price points with, so I digress.

Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta on our
website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some) plus a
complete video editing and compositing solution.

Regards,
Jason.

Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

Jason,
I'm not interested (at this time) in the video aspects of Vegas. If
Vegas Pro is all about video, then what the hell is Vegas Video for?
I know for a fact that the Win98 version of Pro Tools is a reality,
and coming much sooner than you would like. Right now it only works
with AudiomediaIII, but i imagine that a "native", non-hardware
version like the Mac ProMix ($230), could follow. After all, Vegas
proves you don't really need all that DSP hardware. I'm not trying to
pick a fight. I think SF is the best PC audio software company,
period. I have ACID and love the shit out of it, but Sound Forge, as
solid and feature-laden as it is, blows for editing music. The
cut/paste/clipboard paradigm is a joke at this point, and your
competitors know it. It's too bad you had to make your first "modern"
multitrack/audio editor (Vegas) an over-priced "multimedia do-all"
affair.
The introduction of Vegas Video makes you guys seem a little confused
yourselves.

Jason VandeKieft wrote:
>>Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it
suits
>>your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One
Solution.
>>One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia III,
>>well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any
>>Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it.
>>
>>In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you get
(or
>>don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you pay
>>extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support, etc.
>>
>>Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long? (Sorry,
>>Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.)
>>
>>OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not the
>>best person to discuss price points with, so I digress.
>>
>>Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta on
our
>>website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some) plus a
>>complete video editing and compositing solution.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jason.
>>
>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

I apologize if we seem video-centric lately, but that's what has been
on our minds lately . Regarding what you consider Sound Forge's shortcomings, could you elaborate a bit or give an example of the paradigm you have in mind? Also, which competitors are you speaking of? In our minds, we left out a lot of unnecessary baggage from Vegas Pro that burdens our competitors. We also concentrated on ease of use and performance. As a practicing musician myself, I feel that Vegas beats the pants off other software only DAWs in these areas. I'm sorry if you disagree. We try, but we can't please everyone. Good luck on your future endeavors with whatever solution you decide on. Regards, Jason. Bruce Swanson wrote: >>Jason, >>I'm not interested (at this time) in the video aspects of Vegas. If >>Vegas Pro is all about video, then what the hell is Vegas Video for? >>I know for a fact that the Win98 version of Pro Tools is a reality, >>and coming much sooner than you would like. Right now it only works >>with AudiomediaIII, but i imagine that a "native", non-hardware >>version like the Mac ProMix ($230), could follow. After all, Vegas >>proves you don't really need all that DSP hardware. I'm not trying to >>pick a fight. I think SF is the best PC audio software company, >>period. I have ACID and love the shit out of it, but Sound Forge, as >>solid and feature-laden as it is, blows at editing music. The >>cut/paste/clipboard paradigm is a joke at this point, and your >>competitors know it. It's too bad you had to make your first "modern" >>multitrack/audio editor (Vegas) an over-priced "multimedia do-all" >>affair. >>The introduction of Vegas Video makes you guys seem a little confused >>yourselves. >> >>Jason VandeKieft wrote: >>>>Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it >>suits >>>>your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One >>Solution. >>>>One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia III, >>>>well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any >>>>Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it. >>>> >>>>In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you get >>(or >>>>don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you pay >>>>extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support, etc. >>>> >>>>Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long? (Sorry, >>>>Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.) >>>> >>>>OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not the >>>>best person to discuss price points with, so I digress. >>>> >>>>Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta on >>our >>>>website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some) plus a >>>>complete video editing and compositing solution. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Jason. >>>> >>>>Bruce Swanson wrote: >>>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's >>>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's >>>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that >>>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O >>>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's >>>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the >>>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect >>>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools >>>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I >>>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my >>>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

Jason,

Your marketing techniques will be the end of your reputable name if
your not careful (pass it on....cause others already have).

I paid $600.00 for this program...months after it came out. I do
like it - eh it crashes from time (with one of your now available
"bundle packages" no less - I won't mention the name but it sounds
like BIDIMAN TELTA 1010)

When it works it's a good app....but it's waaaay overpriced. Now we
can buy it for $399.00...where's the remainder of my overpayment? ;)

Now I see your Vegas Video Pro....??? what the hell?

Why isn't SF working out the kinks in Vegas Pro 1.0b before releasing
the inane VVideo pro? Shouldn't THIS be a download for Vegas owners?
"It's got all the features of Vegas...and then some".

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat the hell? How CORPORATE is that?

SF marketing plans:

Ok consumers (cause that's what you are...our cattle), now that you
purchased our Vegas Pro 1.0 for some ungodly CORPORATE
amount.....we'd now like you to bend over as we cram your improved,
CORPORATE, re-packaged version of your original product straight up
your bumper.
But that's not all.........you'll pay that ungodly amount AGAIN!!!

Great eh?

Can we get some answers on this?
JoeD



Jason VandeKieft wrote:
>>Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it
suits
>>your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One
Solution.
>>One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia III,
>>well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any
>>Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it.
>>
>>In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you get
(or
>>don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you pay
>>extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support, etc.
>>
>>Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long? (Sorry,
>>Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.)
>>
>>OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not the
>>best person to discuss price points with, so I digress.
>>
>>Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta on
our
>>website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some) plus a
>>complete video editing and compositing solution.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jason.
>>
>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

..but I will give it a shot.

Joe,
I honestly don't think anyone here has the attitude that they want to
rip off anyone or treat the customers we have like cattle. I'm sorry
if you have that impression. I'm no marketing goon but I hardly
thinkthey could be much different then the rest of us, considering
how Sonic Foundry lives.

As far as the price drop. I do Quality Testing here so I don't get
to help SF make pricing decisions but from my expereince with
software in general, there are few titles that do not drop in price
over time-- particularly as you approach the release of a new
version. That's just economics. You have old product on the shelf
and you want it moved before you release it's replacement. I don't
have a problem with this when I buy a car, a video card or fruit at
the Farmer's Market so I don't see it as an unethical or 'corporate'
method of mistreating customers. It is just a way to try and move
product that will be near impossible to move when the 'latest,
greatest' comes out.

I really don't know how to answer the rest of your post-- there seems
to be a fair amount of angst buried in there that I don't know how to
deal with. Let me be honest with you though-- I really don't feel
that SF will be really 'corporate' in the 'suit and tie'
or 'everybody fit in' sense for a long long time.

I guess I didn't really give you all the answers you wanted but some
I can't answer, others I don't know how-- I did my best for you.

Kob
SQA, SF


joe wrote:
>>Jason,
>>
>>Your marketing techniques will be the end of your reputable name if
>>your not careful (pass it on....cause others already have).
>>
>>I paid $600.00 for this program...months after it came out. I do
>>like it - eh it crashes from time (with one of your now available
>>"bundle packages" no less - I won't mention the name but it sounds
>>like BIDIMAN TELTA 1010)
>>
>>When it works it's a good app....but it's waaaay overpriced. Now
we
>>can buy it for $399.00...where's the remainder of my
overpayment? ;)
>>
>>Now I see your Vegas Video Pro....??? what the hell?
>>
>>Why isn't SF working out the kinks in Vegas Pro 1.0b before
releasing
>>the inane VVideo pro? Shouldn't THIS be a download for Vegas
owners?
>>"It's got all the features of Vegas...and then some".
>>
>>Whaaaaaaaaaaaat the hell? How CORPORATE is that?
>>
>>SF marketing plans:
>>
>>Ok consumers (cause that's what you are...our cattle), now that you
>>purchased our Vegas Pro 1.0 for some ungodly CORPORATE
>>amount.....we'd now like you to bend over as we cram your improved,
>>CORPORATE, re-packaged version of your original product straight up
>>your bumper.
>>But that's not all.........you'll pay that ungodly amount AGAIN!!!
>>
>>Great eh?
>>
>>Can we get some answers on this?
>>JoeD
>>
>>
>>
>>Jason VandeKieft wrote:
>>>>Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it
>>suits
>>>>your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One
>>Solution.
>>>>One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia
III,
>>>>well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any
>>>>Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it.
>>>>
>>>>In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you get
>>(or
>>>>don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you
pay
>>>>extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long?
(Sorry,
>>>>Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.)
>>>>
>>>>OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not
the
>>>>best person to discuss price points with, so I digress.
>>>>
>>>>Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta on
>>our
>>>>website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some) plus
a
>>>>complete video editing and compositing solution.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Jason.
>>>>
>>>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

...which address specific concerns that Vegas Video is somehow
replacing Vegas Pro or that we are 'forcing' Vegas users to buy Video
editing software in order to get the newest version of their Vegas
PRO (audio) product.

Kob

Jason Robinson wrote:
>>..but I will give it a shot.
>>
>>Joe,
>>I honestly don't think anyone here has the attitude that they want
to
>>rip off anyone or treat the customers we have like cattle. I'm
sorry
>>if you have that impression. I'm no marketing goon but I hardly
>>thinkthey could be much different then the rest of us, considering
>>how Sonic Foundry lives.
>>
>>As far as the price drop. I do Quality Testing here so I don't get
>>to help SF make pricing decisions but from my expereince with
>>software in general, there are few titles that do not drop in price
>>over time-- particularly as you approach the release of a new
>>version. That's just economics. You have old product on the shelf
>>and you want it moved before you release it's replacement. I don't
>>have a problem with this when I buy a car, a video card or fruit at
>>the Farmer's Market so I don't see it as an unethical
or 'corporate'
>>method of mistreating customers. It is just a way to try and move
>>product that will be near impossible to move when the 'latest,
>>greatest' comes out.
>>
>>I really don't know how to answer the rest of your post-- there
seems
>>to be a fair amount of angst buried in there that I don't know how
to
>>deal with. Let me be honest with you though-- I really don't feel
>>that SF will be really 'corporate' in the 'suit and tie'
>>or 'everybody fit in' sense for a long long time.
>>
>>I guess I didn't really give you all the answers you wanted but
some
>>I can't answer, others I don't know how-- I did my best for you.
>>
>>Kob
>>SQA, SF
>>
>>
>>joe wrote:
>>>>Jason,
>>>>
>>>>Your marketing techniques will be the end of your reputable name
if
>>>>your not careful (pass it on....cause others already have).
>>>>
>>>>I paid $600.00 for this program...months after it came out. I do
>>>>like it - eh it crashes from time (with one of your now available
>>>>"bundle packages" no less - I won't mention the name but it
sounds
>>>>like BIDIMAN TELTA 1010)
>>>>
>>>>When it works it's a good app....but it's waaaay overpriced. Now
>>we
>>>>can buy it for $399.00...where's the remainder of my
>>overpayment? ;)
>>>>
>>>>Now I see your Vegas Video Pro....??? what the hell?
>>>>
>>>>Why isn't SF working out the kinks in Vegas Pro 1.0b before
>>releasing
>>>>the inane VVideo pro? Shouldn't THIS be a download for Vegas
>>owners?
>>>>"It's got all the features of Vegas...and then some".
>>>>
>>>>Whaaaaaaaaaaaat the hell? How CORPORATE is that?
>>>>
>>>>SF marketing plans:
>>>>
>>>>Ok consumers (cause that's what you are...our cattle), now that
you
>>>>purchased our Vegas Pro 1.0 for some ungodly CORPORATE
>>>>amount.....we'd now like you to bend over as we cram your
improved,
>>>>CORPORATE, re-packaged version of your original product straight
up
>>>>your bumper.
>>>>But that's not all.........you'll pay that ungodly amount AGAIN!!!
>>>>
>>>>Great eh?
>>>>
>>>>Can we get some answers on this?
>>>>JoeD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jason VandeKieft wrote:
>>>>>>Pro Tools LE and Digi001 is a fine out-of-the box system if it
>>>>suits
>>>>>>your needs. But I'm reminded of the Digi sound byte "One
>>>>Solution.
>>>>>>One Company." If you don't like the Digi001 or the Audiomedia
>>III,
>>>>>>well that's tough cookies to you. Vegas Pro supports most any
>>>>>>Windows compatible piece of hardware you throw at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In my mind, _these_ systems are a bit overpriced for what you
get
>>>>(or
>>>>>>don't get), like a 24 track limit, no .asf or .wma support (you
>>pay
>>>>>>extra for mp3, too), no DirectX support, no video support,
etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, and they've been developing for Windows for how long?
>>(Sorry,
>>>>>>Digi-supporters, that was a cheap shot.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, that's enough out of me. As a non-marketing type, I'm not
>>the
>>>>>>best person to discuss price points with, so I digress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please be sure to try out the newly released Vegas Video beta
on
>>>>our
>>>>>>website. All the functionality of Vegas Pro (and then some)
plus
>>a
>>>>>>complete video editing and compositing solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Jason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

I've been looking for a video/sound editor, and all the full-featured
ones are in the $500-600 range. I'm considering biting the bullet
and shelling out that kind of money for one which actually works, and
so far the Vegas Video beta has impressed me. But, this thread has
me a little nervous - I can't find the price you're all complaining
about, and I'd really like to know: What's the planned retail price??



Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

Jerome,
This was a hard one to get an answer on, partialy because they have
not settled on a price yet. But I got a start point for you: The
official workd at this point is that a full featured Vegas Video 2.0
will be sub- $1000.

Unfortunately, I have nothing more specific. Nor do I have any
information on how much Vegas Audio will be or how much the various
upgrade paths will cost.

Speaking of which there is more information on the upgrade path and
how this product line will be structured in the works as we speak---
the information should be should be brought to light reasonably
soon. We are hearing the questions you guys are asking here and
making efforts to get you answers. Thanks a lot for participating in
the forums-- it has helped us see what we forgot to make clear to you
folks.

Jason
QA Team

PS- Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, J.


Jerome Allison wrote:
>>I've been looking for a video/sound editor, and all the full-
featured
>>ones are in the $500-600 range. I'm considering biting the bullet
>>and shelling out that kind of money for one which actually works,
and
>>so far the Vegas Video beta has impressed me. But, this thread has
>>me a little nervous - I can't find the price you're all complaining
>>about, and I'd really like to know: What's the planned retail
price??
>>
>>
>>
>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

I got a good quote on the price of Vegas 2 just now. It may change
but this is currently the answer they cooked up for us.

1. What will the price of Vegas Video be?
The pricing for Vegas Video is as follows:

List $699
Upgrade from Vegas Pro* $199
Upgrade from Vegas Audio** $99
Competitive Upgrade*** More info forthcoming

* Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Pro 1.x to Vegas
Video
** Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Audio 2.x to
Vegas Video 2.x
*** Use this price for customers already owning competitive software
(more info forthcoming).

Later!

Jason Robinson wrote:
>>Jerome,
>>This was a hard one to get an answer on, partialy because they have
>>not settled on a price yet. But I got a start point for you: The
>>official workd at this point is that a full featured Vegas Video
2.0
>>will be sub- $1000.
>>
>>Unfortunately, I have nothing more specific. Nor do I have any
>>information on how much Vegas Audio will be or how much the various
>>upgrade paths will cost.
>>
>>Speaking of which there is more information on the upgrade path and
>>how this product line will be structured in the works as we speak---

>>the information should be should be brought to light reasonably
>>soon. We are hearing the questions you guys are asking here and
>>making efforts to get you answers. Thanks a lot for participating
in
>>the forums-- it has helped us see what we forgot to make clear to
you
>>folks.
>>
>>Jason
>>QA Team
>>
>>PS- Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, J.
>>
>>
>>Jerome Allison wrote:
>>>>I've been looking for a video/sound editor, and all the full-
>>featured
>>>>ones are in the $500-600 range. I'm considering biting the
bullet
>>>>and shelling out that kind of money for one which actually works,
>>and
>>>>so far the Vegas Video beta has impressed me. But, this thread
has
>>>>me a little nervous - I can't find the price you're all
complaining
>>>>about, and I'd really like to know: What's the planned retail
>>price??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

So Jason,

More to the point ... what is the upgrade price to be
for the majority of us red haired step children in this forum who
care naught for video and only want to upgrade our beloved Vegas Pro
to the "Audio only" version of Vegas 2?

I certainly hope that we are not going to have to pay $200 for ver 2
barely eight months after ver 1's introduction?

You will have to pardon my angst ... being a dyed-in-the-wool SOUND
guy for many years, my color blind eyes get glassy when I hear the
word "video" ... and I get tremors when I think of the way I and my
brethren have been treated down through the years by those who stare
at color TV monitors all day mumbling mantras like "cold"
and "register" and "color phase". :)

KAC ...

Jason Robinson wrote:
>>I got a good quote on the price of Vegas 2 just now. It may change
>>but this is currently the answer they cooked up for us.
>>
>>1. What will the price of Vegas Video be?
>>The pricing for Vegas Video is as follows:
>>
>>List $699
>>Upgrade from Vegas Pro* $199
>>Upgrade from Vegas Audio** $99
>>Competitive Upgrade*** More info forthcoming
>>
>>* Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Pro 1.x to
Vegas
>>Video
>>** Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Audio 2.x to
>>Vegas Video 2.x
>>*** Use this price for customers already owning competitive
software

Thanks for the info, Jason - I realized it would be difficult
to produce concrete numbers this far from the release date.
I'm wondering, though, what the upgrade path/pricing from
my Sound Forge XP 4.5 would be ;-)


Jason Robinson wrote:
>>I got a good quote on the price of Vegas 2 just now. It may change
>>but this is currently the answer they cooked up for us.
>>
>>1. What will the price of Vegas Video be?
>>The pricing for Vegas Video is as follows:
>>
>>List $699
>>Upgrade from Vegas Pro* $199
>>Upgrade from Vegas Audio** $99
>>Competitive Upgrade*** More info forthcoming
>>
>>* Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Pro 1.x to
Vegas
>>Video
>>** Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Audio 2.x to
>>Vegas Video 2.x
>>*** Use this price for customers already owning competitive
software
>>(more info forthcoming).
>>
>>Later!
>>
>>Jason Robinson wrote:
>>>>Jerome,
>>>>This was a hard one to get an answer on, partialy because they
have
>>>>not settled on a price yet. But I got a start point for you: The
>>>>official workd at this point is that a full featured Vegas Video
>>2.0
>>>>will be sub- $1000.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately, I have nothing more specific. Nor do I have any
>>>>information on how much Vegas Audio will be or how much the
various
>>>>upgrade paths will cost.
>>>>
>>>>Speaking of which there is more information on the upgrade path
and
>>>>how this product line will be structured in the works as we speak-
--
>>
>>>>the information should be should be brought to light reasonably
>>>>soon. We are hearing the questions you guys are asking here and
>>>>making efforts to get you answers. Thanks a lot for
participating
>>in
>>>>the forums-- it has helped us see what we forgot to make clear to
>>you
>>>>folks.
>>>>
>>>>Jason
>>>>QA Team
>>>>
>>>>PS- Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jerome Allison wrote:
>>>>>>I've been looking for a video/sound editor, and all the full-
>>>>featured
>>>>>>ones are in the $500-600 range. I'm considering biting the
>>bullet
>>>>>>and shelling out that kind of money for one which actually
works,
>>>>and
>>>>>>so far the Vegas Video beta has impressed me. But, this thread
>>has
>>>>>>me a little nervous - I can't find the price you're all
>>complaining
>>>>>>about, and I'd really like to know: What's the planned retail
>>>>price??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bruce Swanson wrote:
>>>>>>>>After giving the Vegas demo a spin I can say that it's
>>>>>>>>another outstanding S.F. product. However, I think it's
>>>>>>>>much too pricey for what it does. When you consider that
>>>>>>>>digidesign's Digi 001 includes a PCI audio card, an I/O
>>>>>>>>breakout box, and Pro Tools 5.0Le for $900 or less, it's
>>>>>>>>hard to justify Vegas' price. I've been informed that the
>>>>>>>>win98 Pro Tools software is ready to go, and with respect
>>>>>>>>to Sonic Foundry, anyone who is familiar with Pro tools
>>>>>>>>knows it's the best audio editing system available. I
>>>>>>>>really like Vegas, and would be glad to add it to my
>>>>>>>>arsenal if the price wasn't so out of whack.

Hey Karl -
Based on Jason's email, it looks like it's $99 to upgrade from Vegas
Pro to Vegas audio 2.0

cdm

Karl Caillouet wrote:
>>So Jason,
>>
>>More to the point ... what is the upgrade price to be
>>for the majority of us red haired step children in this forum who
>>care naught for video and only want to upgrade our beloved Vegas
Pro
>>to the "Audio only" version of Vegas 2?
>>
>>I certainly hope that we are not going to have to pay $200 for ver
2
>>barely eight months after ver 1's introduction?
>>
>>You will have to pardon my angst ... being a dyed-in-the-wool SOUND
>>guy for many years, my color blind eyes get glassy when I hear the
>>word "video" ... and I get tremors when I think of the way I and my
>>brethren have been treated down through the years by those who
stare
>>at color TV monitors all day mumbling mantras like "cold"
>>and "register" and "color phase". :)
>>
>>KAC ...
>>
>>Jason Robinson wrote:
>>>>I got a good quote on the price of Vegas 2 just now. It may
change
>>>>but this is currently the answer they cooked up for us.
>>>>
>>>>1. What will the price of Vegas Video be?
>>>>The pricing for Vegas Video is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>List $699
>>>>Upgrade from Vegas Pro* $199
>>>>Upgrade from Vegas Audio** $99
>>>>Competitive Upgrade*** More info forthcoming
>>>>
>>>>* Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Pro 1.x to
>>Vegas
>>>>Video
>>>>** Use this price for customers upgrading from Vegas Audio 2.x
to
>>>>Vegas Video 2.x
>>>>*** Use this price for customers already owning competitive
>>software
>>