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Spectralis wrote on 10/18/2011, 11:02 PM
If you also use After Effects then NVidia is the way to go when upgrading the video card. In the UK a GTX 460 is about £100 which isn't a huge upgrade cost considering the extra power it provides. Anything above £150 might be better spent on a CPU upgrade.
wilvan wrote on 10/19/2011, 6:08 AM
Would eventually upgrade 1 of the 2 quadro FX3800' s into a quadro 4000.
( am using 3 x monitors )

If anybody has any experience with quadro 4000 , very welcome to hear.

Sony publishes results of the quadro 5000 but this card is more then 3.000 euro's here in Europe ......

I also wonder how vegas would recognise the 4000 to be used then instead of the FX3800

Present lay-out :

Quadro FX3800 nr 1

Main monitor 1 = time line


Quadro FX3800 nr 2

seond monitor := preview , trimmer , explorer
third monitor = fx, transition , pan/crop

Sony  PXW-FS7K and 2 x Sony PXW-Z280  ( optimised as per Doug Jensen Master Classes and Alister Chapman advices ) Sony A7 IV
2 x HP Z840 workstations , each as follows : WIN10 pro x 64 , 2 x 10 core Xeon E5-2687W V3 at 3.5 GHz , 256 GB reg ECC RAM , HP nvidia quadro RTX A5000 ( 24GB ), 3 x samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 x4  , 3 x SSD 1TB samsung 860 pro , 3 x 3TB WD3003FZEX.
SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2025
Adobe After Effects CC 2025 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2025
Avid Media Composer 2024.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

hazydave wrote on 10/19/2011, 12:14 PM
The word "laptop" comes to mind as your primary problem. A laptop is always an inferior device for video editing. You can't upgrade, it can't likely hold enough memory, and I would never go back to editing on a single monitor, much less lower resolution. In fact, I'm stating to think of adding a third monitor.

I have never actually bought a desktop PC. Back in 1993, I was an Amiga user (and engineer), but someone loaned me a PC for a contract job. And never paid. So I kept the PC, and as faster things came available, I added them. Changed main boards, hard drives, graphics cards, keyboards, optical drives, monitors, cases, power supplies, etc. many times, but never all at once. That's the real power of the PC: the modularity.

It cost quite a bit to upgrade a laptop... the one I have (partly funded by non-video work) cost $1285 new, and these days, it's pretty outdated, but not likely to get updated anytime soon. It's useful enough for a quicky same-day cut edit in the field (ok, it was upgraded a little over stock... it's got 4GB RAM and 1.2TB HDD).

But on the desktop, there have been multiple opportunities to dramatically improve performance on the cheap. If I can spend $300 and at least double performance, I do. Which explains the AMD Radeon HD 6870 graphics card that should arrive today or tomorrow... $300 on the nose.
hazydave wrote on 10/19/2011, 12:15 PM
I have a six core AMD 1090T... not quite an i7, but pretty fast. I plan to do a benchmark of Vegas 11, GPU vs. no GPU and vs. Vegas 10, just for fun. Stay tuned.
Weakling wrote on 10/19/2011, 12:47 PM
My nVidia GTX560 is not in the compute compatibility list, the Ti version is. I expect the GTX560 to be at level 2.0 at least. However: choosing the Sony AVC profile and the "GPU (if available)" option for rendering, does not result is actually using the GPU and its CUDA cores. The "Check GPU" button in Vegas does say it detects CUDA, but GPU uses stays at 6% just like when using "CPU only".

A ten minute movie takes about 20 minutes to render without any effects. When I use the same setting for that movie in Nero Video, it only takes 6 minutes to render and it does use the GPU (30 - 40%). It is disappointing for me to see that a more professional video editor cannot do what a fairly simple editor can. Any thoughts on how to solve this?

My system:
- i7 860
- GTX560
- Win 7 64 bit
- 4 GB ram
- nVidia driver 280.26
- Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11
JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/19/2011, 1:17 PM
> "I also wonder how vegas would recognise the 4000 to be used then instead of the FX3800 "

It recognizes my Quadro 4000 with any problems.

~jr
wilvan wrote on 10/19/2011, 2:39 PM
Thanks JohnyRoy ,

I meant , when having 1 x quadro4000 and 1xquadro FX3800 in same system ( I want to replace only 1 of the 2 quadro FX3800 ) , how would vegas know it should use the quadro 4000 instead of the quadro FX 3800.

And how is vegas 11 improved with your quadro 4000 in regards of preview .

Am not interested in rendering at all since my total of 16 cores and 48 GB RAM handle rendering fast anyway ( and is done when I am doing something else at another system or when asleep or having lunch or ... )

Sony  PXW-FS7K and 2 x Sony PXW-Z280  ( optimised as per Doug Jensen Master Classes and Alister Chapman advices ) Sony A7 IV
2 x HP Z840 workstations , each as follows : WIN10 pro x 64 , 2 x 10 core Xeon E5-2687W V3 at 3.5 GHz , 256 GB reg ECC RAM , HP nvidia quadro RTX A5000 ( 24GB ), 3 x samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 x4  , 3 x SSD 1TB samsung 860 pro , 3 x 3TB WD3003FZEX.
SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2025
Adobe After Effects CC 2025 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2025
Avid Media Composer 2024.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

ritsmer wrote on 10/19/2011, 2:43 PM
@Weakling: Welcome to the SCS forums - nice to see new names around here -
- but pls. note that this forum is for the pro version of Vegas. Not the Movie Studio "pro" version :- )
Cliff Etzel wrote on 10/19/2011, 3:30 PM
@Jøran Toresen - actually you can get even my lowly nVidia GT-220 supported under CS5/5.5. All it requires is a simple manual hack to a text based config file with your particular CUDA based card. Why that's not possible with Vegas is beyond me. I may not see much improvement, but the fact I can add that and get some level of MPE in PPro is why I'm sitting on the fence debating the switch back to Vegas right now. I have to weigh the pro's and cons since my relationship with Vegas, as well as other's I've corresponded with privately say much the same as I feel - it wasn't a good relationship the past couple of years.

And a minor rant here: anyone stating that editing on a workstation class laptop as not being professional doesn't know what they're talking about. My Dell i7 Precision M4500 "WORKSTATION" class laptop supports up to 16GB memory (I'm currently running 8GB)

And I can run PPro on both machines with full graphics card support on either machine.

Cliff
Weakling wrote on 10/19/2011, 4:40 PM
@ritsmer
My apologies for posting in the wrong part of this forum. I will try to find the correct location to post my question about the GPU acceleration not working.