Vegas Pro 17 - MP4 judders/stops, while ok in pro 16 and others

merlin-beedell wrote on 12/7/2019, 7:54 AM

I have some footage in MP4 format that plays fine in windows player and in Vegas Pro 16, yet when I load it into Vegas 17 (343) it shows only a few fames, slowly, then many blank frames. I have tried to use all the same options and settings, followed the best YouTube guides from places like ScrapYard. I have renamed the File IO compound plug folder, turned off GPU rendering (its just a laptop with Intel graphics). It seems silly to re-render this footage using Vegas 16 just so I can use it in VP17, so it would be nice to figure how to solve. This journey, however, raises a number of queries:

1. Wouldn't it be a good idea to add a feature to collect a complete set of meaningful details into a single zip that includes all VP settings, pc config, graphic card and if inside VP at the time, logs and any footage data (some of this is already in the 'About' panel). This would go a long way to help clarify the environment under which many of the reported issue cases occur. The 'help' menu could include a "report an issue" which wraps this all up - and similar in a separate app for when VP fails to start.

2. There are quite a few settings spread over quite a few places that can have a dramatic effect on the reliability and performance of Vegas (all versions). Many of these settings are eclectic and most users would not know how to set these most effectively for their computer. So some utility that could be developed to analyse the computer in order to suggest the most appropriate configurations. e.g. Dynamic RAM Preview (max). My computer says it has 7000 available - yay, lets set this option to 2000. Oh no, VP crashes all the time when rendering. set this back to 400, and all is stable. Why? Some automated way to set this to the most appropriate value would surely help?

3. Many self-help guides suggest disabling the file-io compound plug-ins. Why were they developed if they cause so much pain? Could these be disabled via the Options menu (now that it has a File IO tab)?

PS, the if the Vegas forum uses /uk/ in the url, the links fail (404 page).

I include a very short MP4 and the effect that this and some longer ones have in VP17. They play smoothly in VP16. PS. no smart rendering either (as per recommendations).

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merlin-beedell wrote on 12/16/2019, 10:26 AM

I have just updated to build 387, and this clip (and several others) now plays somewhat better in VP17. A bit juddery still, but much better. I have several other types of MP4 which are all fine - just these high bit rate ones that seem to be the issue here.

Video: 29.970 fps progressive, 3328x2496x12, AVC
  Audio: 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

Plug-In
  Name: compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 17.0 (Build 387)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

fr0sty wrote on 12/16/2019, 10:30 AM

The new DLLs work fine in most cases, but some users on some hardware configs have reported certain problems, which thankfully only requires going into Vegas' internal settings and disabling the dll. However, having them enabled does enable Vegas to do things like decode 10 bit HDR video, decode quicktime media without the need of having quicktime (which is now a security risk on windows) installed, faster decoding performance for some media, etc.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

merlin-beedell wrote on 3/30/2020, 1:01 PM

I have upgraded to the latest build (421) and it seems much better. MP4 shot at 50fps now seem to flow nicely.