Vegas Pro 17, using all my memory and sticking around.

OhHowOriginal wrote on 10/9/2020, 10:28 AM

Hello, new to the forum but having issues with my Vegas which nobody else seems to be able to figure out and someone recommended here.

Firstly, my computer specs are Win10 Pro, Ryzen 5 3600, MSI B450 Gaming Pro carbon, Kingston 1tb NVME SSD, Gigabyte 1660 super, 32gb ddr 3200mhz ram.

My issue seems to be as follows, when I am using a Bezier mask tracking and Gaussian blur to blur out a small moving object in my video, my ram maxes out, if I do very short clips at a time, it will just get up to around 30-31gb, but any longer than about 15 seconds and it maxes out and shuts down... If I do a short clip and then close the FX window, the ram stays right up and won't drop until I close Vegas right down, so I can't really do anything else without restarting it after every clip.

Interestingly, when I open Task Manager, it shows that I am using under 2500mb of my ram, but it registers as much much higher.

The PC is less than four months old and runs flawlessly in every other way, so I can only put this down to a fault with Vegas, although I might be wrong.

Below is a couple of screenshots of a test I did today, note the reason for the random flatlines is the tracking kept losing it's place and the reason it isn't maxed out is because it was just a short clip to get the screenshots.

Very strange one in my opinion, never had any issues before like this when rendering etc... Most of my footage is 2.7k 60fps, but even if I use 720p 30fps, it still does the same, I tested this also for comparison.

That being said, it doesn't get worse if I use 4k 60fps either.

I'd really appreciate some help with this, because I really need to be able to use this feature, it's the main thing I use on Vegas.

If I have missed off any information, just let me know and I'll put it up.

https://i.imgur.com/iG9aKfu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IZeZqGN.jpg

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RogerS wrote on 10/26/2020, 9:54 PM

I find VP 18 confusing for masking and tracking so I went back to 17 since that isn't working for you either. It's actually a lot more straightforward for tracking.

For settings, on File I/O I have enabled hardware decoding checked. Hardware decoder to use is NVIDIA NVDEC.

I created two Fx- one for gaussian blur and one for Bezier masking. I did precision= high, mode= perspective, direction= both, keyframe interval 5. Doing the tracking in 17 gave me all the points like what you had (I called chevrons but if you zoom in are actually diamonds and circles).

I got no increase in ram use- stayed around 2GB. I only tracked one crab. I tracked a second one and it went to 3.3GB ram use. With 3 tracked masks, up to 6GB ram.

With tracking, I don't see how to correct it when it loses the crab. I can delete points and then hit track forward from the last good mask but it only creates one point. I don't know how to get it to create all the individual points after doing it once.

OhHowOriginal wrote on 10/27/2020, 7:54 AM

@RogerS - thank you very much for all the help, taking away from all this it must just be my copy of Vegas has an issue.

I figure if it was a problem with my computer, it should show in other aspects of Vegas, Photoshop, Lightroom etc... But nothing has ever made my ram spike before.

I have tried with identical settings to what you have said above, I have tried it my own way and your way as previously explained.

I feel at this point it can only be an issue with my copy of Vegas.

RogerS wrote on 10/27/2020, 8:00 AM

Yes, maybe something with the installation. In the past I also had Vegas issues while LR/Photoshop were fine- they are less GPU intensive applications.

Did you try doing a reset and cache flush of Vegas (hold down control/shift and start it)? Failing that, try a clean reinstall of Vegas?

RogerS wrote on 10/27/2020, 8:15 AM

I have a question- going back to your very first images you showed the system at 68% memory usage with almost nothing open. Vegas was the top program yet only taking up 2GB of memory (2000MB) in the process tab. If the programs are in order of ram usage as they seem to be, this doesn't add up.

Do you have a program that isn't showing itself in task manager (a virus?) consuming ram? For me with Lightroom, Firefox playing a video and 30 tabs and Chrome with tons of tabs open I'm only at 47% of 32GB. Maybe also look a Resource Monitor which gives more data on memory usage.

OhHowOriginal wrote on 10/27/2020, 8:16 AM

Yes I think the next step will be a reinstall, already tried the ctrl/shift while starting, unfortunately it didn't fix my issue.

If the reinstall doesn't work I will just find some better software.

OhHowOriginal wrote on 10/27/2020, 10:55 AM

@RogerS - no virus as far as I know, the computer is freshly built by myself, I don't tend to visit dodgy websites or download unknown things, I'm not a big time downloader in general... The ram use is all normal when Vegas isn't open, once that is closed I am down below 10%, then if I have lots of tabs, Lightroom and whatnot open, it goes a bit higher, but not like this Vegas issue.

RogerS wrote on 10/27/2020, 9:46 PM

So the huge surge in ram use (10% to 60%) is entirely Vegas? Something weird here. I never see Vegas using up that much ram. I would reinstall in case it fixes it.

I wonder if there are Vegas plugins or the like that are causing issues. Perhaps temporarily move VSTs or third-party Fx elsewhere for troubleshooting.

OhHowOriginal wrote on 11/8/2020, 5:58 AM

@RogerS - yes it's entirely Vegas, not only is it just Vegas, but it's only that one specific thing... I actually never thought it might be something wrong with a Plugin, I assume the tracking/masking thing is a Plugin and not native, I will have to look into that I guess.

Reinstalling unfortunately hasn't solved the issue :(

RogerS wrote on 11/8/2020, 6:13 AM

Tracking and masking are native