Vegas Pro 20 + NewBlue - worth upgrading?

Lee-James wrote on 12/7/2022, 7:20 AM

Hello,

I have been using Vegas Pro 18 for a while now, creating content on my YouTube channel (VIRTUALAIRLINEPILOT) each week. I'm no expert but I can use the software pretty well after deciding to upgrade from Movie Studio 17 some time ago. I am happy to admit that I probably don't use or fully understand most of the effects and options available to me in Vegas Pro, but I manage and I'm trying to learn and improve.

So, there is an offer until 13th December for me to purchase Vegas Pro 20 plus the NewBlue TotalFX addon, for £129. Supposedly reduced from £1229.

What is the opinion here? Would it be a good move? I believe I have a good PC purchased from ChillBlast (Intel i9-9900k CPU, 32GB Ram, NVidia GeForce RTX 2080Ti video running at 2056x1440 display, 2TB Samsung Evo SSD and other drives available) which I use for Flight Simulation and I create product reviews and adventure videos using Vegas Pro for the editing.

I'd like to learn how to improve the video content and maybe learn to use some of the effects in the NewBlue addon software too, so I'm asking the question here . . .

I would very much appreciate any comments.

Thank you

Regards

 

Lee

Comments

w-d wrote on 12/7/2022, 4:16 PM

It seems like a good deal, but I am trying to figure out whether the license is perpetual: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-20-a-newblue-add-on-from-159--138291/

Reyfox wrote on 12/7/2022, 4:55 PM

I have TotalFX7 myself and use Titler Pro 7 often. TP7 does take a while to create your titles, so I sometimes work with the standalone and edit in Vegas. Once the title is exported, I drag the video of it into Vegas.

The transitions and effects are nice depending on what type of videos you work with. You can download a trial version of it and see if it is what you want. But the price with Vegas 20 (guessing you are upgrading Vegas), I would think it's worth it.

Again, download the trial version, have a look and then decide.

Also, I would opt for a perpetual license and not a "rental" myself.

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Lee-James wrote on 12/7/2022, 7:14 PM

Hello,

Thank you both for your kind comments. I would hope that the NewBlue software has a lifetime licence! If they sold it and then only after the sale, I discovered the licence was limited, that would be grounds here in the UK for mis-selling! I would hope that they would be clear about the licence....

Titler Pro 7 looks great - but at £305 for the cheapest version and with Vegas Pro 20 being sold at £129, it's out of my price range really. At least until I get really good with video editing. I'm not entirely a beginner but I'm not an expert either.

For me, as long as Vegas Pro 20 is backwards compatible somewhat (previous versions have allowed me to load projects created with earlier versions of the software), then I'll give it a go.

Thank you both for your comments.

 

regards,

 

Lee

Former user wrote on 12/7/2022, 7:35 PM

@Lee-James VP20 is maybe the most stable Vegas I've used(not used for very long), but there's not that many people here saying that. For many it crashes all the time, or it's very sluggish after 5 - 10mins work. I don't know the problem for those with constant crashing and lagging, but your system is similar to mine, I have 32gig ram, so do you, my GPU is 10GB Vram, your is 11, we both use 1440P monitors

I notice VRAM is 9GB used just loading a 1440P AVC file, so what happens if someone with a 6GB card loads that file and uses some GPU FX's, do they start swapping out to slow system memory, maybe that's the problem that causes the slowness, OR maybe it's a lack of system ram or something completely different.

Test with the trial

fr0sty wrote on 12/7/2022, 8:47 PM

If you are a Youtube creator, you might want to consider subscribing to VEGAS Pro 365, because it comes with a content library containing millions of stock music, sfx, and video clips you can use in your videos... and it also comes with AI text to speech or speech to text, so you can have your video narrated in many languages, or convert your voice into subtitles in many languages (and the results are surprisingly high quality). Lots of very useful things in there for social media creators. There's also cloud storage and an online collaboration system that lets other editors, fx artists, and colorists collaborate with you online.

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Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

RogerS wrote on 12/7/2022, 9:40 PM

I think it's a good deal but would spend a few hours with the trial version of 20 and make sure it works for you.

bvideo wrote on 12/7/2022, 10:48 PM

One reason for studying the Newblue license closely is that sometimes it is locked to the version of Vegas it is sold with. So it could be perpetual, but not transferable to future versions of Vegas.

Grazie wrote on 12/7/2022, 11:30 PM

So it could be perpetual, but not transferable to future versions of Vegas.

@bvideo - It didn’t used to be this way?!? If this is true, scraping the bottom of the revenue barrel. I’m using TWIXTOR, iZoRX, BORIS, NEAT Video, perpetual all the way through.

fr0sty wrote on 12/7/2022, 11:32 PM

So it could be perpetual, but not transferable to future versions of Vegas.

@bvideo - It didn’t used to be this way?!? If this is true, scraping the bottom of the revenue barrel. I’m using TWIXTOR, iZoRX, BORIS, NEAT Video, perpetual all the way through.

There have been issues with plugins that come bundled with VEGAS being version locked to that version for many years now, but only some plugins have this issue.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Lee-James wrote on 12/8/2022, 5:43 AM

@Lee-James VP20 is maybe the most stable Vegas I've used(not used for very long), but there's not that many people here saying that. For many it crashes all the time, or it's very sluggish after 5 - 10mins work. I don't know the problem for those with constant crashing and lagging, but your system is similar to mine, I have 32gig ram, so do you, my GPU is 10GB Vram, your is 11, we both use 1440P monitors

I notice VRAM is 9GB used just loading a 1440P AVC file, so what happens if someone with a 6GB card loads that file and uses some GPU FX's, do they start swapping out to slow system memory, maybe that's the problem that causes the slowness, OR maybe it's a lack of system ram or something completely different.

Test with the trial

Hi,

Yes, Vegas Pro 18 crashes a lot too! Thankfully it has autosave! I do, however, often have two copies of the program running where I move sections (text, graphics, etc) from one to the other which saves time - and my system handles it all fine with just 32GB ram. But VP often stops working! I usually defrag my drives and clean up with CCleaner before running VP for a session, to try and minimise this.

 

Lee

Lee-James wrote on 12/8/2022, 5:44 AM

If you are a Youtube creator, you might want to consider subscribing to VEGAS Pro 365, because it comes with a content library containing millions of stock music, sfx, and video clips you can use in your videos... and it also comes with AI text to speech or speech to text, so you can have your video narrated in many languages, or convert your voice into subtitles in many languages (and the results are surprisingly high quality). Lots of very useful things in there for social media creators. There's also cloud storage and an online collaboration system that lets other editors, fx artists, and colorists collaborate with you online.

Wow!

I never knew that! I'll check it out, thanks.

 

Lee

Reyfox wrote on 12/8/2022, 5:46 AM

I found Vegas 18 pretty stable on my machine listed in my signature.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

Lee-James wrote on 12/8/2022, 5:46 AM

One reason for studying the Newblue license closely is that sometimes it is locked to the version of Vegas it is sold with. So it could be perpetual, but not transferable to future versions of Vegas.

Hi,

That's an interesting point. To be honest, I would probably not encounter this problem because I usually update (if indeed I choose to, which is not often) when there is an offer there.

Lee

Dexcon wrote on 12/8/2022, 5:56 AM

For many it crashes all the time, or it's very sluggish after 5 - 10mins work. I don't know the problem for those with constant crashing and lagging, 

Not the crashes, but I've had lots of lagging in Vegas Pro 20 particularly just after saving. I saw somewhere on the forum a hint to avoid the lagging issue - which i also had - was in Hub Explorer to turn off Vegas Projects backups - this in Vegas Pro Edit 20:

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It worked - the lagging disappeared after turning off the project backups.

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Reyfox wrote on 12/8/2022, 6:02 AM

@Dexcon thanks for the tip!

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

w-d wrote on 12/11/2022, 3:27 PM

I bought it. The NewBlue TotalFX license seems to be perpetual! :)

Reyfox wrote on 12/12/2022, 2:26 AM

@w-d have fun exploring all the NBFX features. Remember, with the Titler, the "play" button under the preview window in it's interface will have a progressive green circle around it as it "buffers" the title animation. This can take some time depending on the speed of the computer and how complex the title. I sometimes will work with the standalone on the desktop to create the title, Export as a movie file and place it on top of the video. Also, give the library time to load up and populate when you first start it.

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300