I'm running 64 bit Vista so if it's a free download -- I'm there with
the rendertest first up!

They say 'free download' you gotta hand it to sony for offering a free upgrade to the 64 bit version.
Not sure how many other NLEs would be a free upgrade.
well I hope to be first in line..64bit vista waiting and more memory coming soon i think..thanks sony.

Yes.... people bitch. whine, and complain on how terribly neglectful Sony is (myself included on the odd occasion), but this is something that other companies would NOT do. They would knock this up another FULL version point and charge for it.

I find it interesting though that they DID NOT knock up the version.... or at least parallel it with version 8. An indication that Vegas 32 bit is coming to an end??

Its not like Sony is adding new features to Vegas 8 hence the reason this is not a full upgrade that will be charged. They are only making it 64 bi compatible. Now Adobe is releasing 64 bit apps with new features on the 23rd so it makes sense for them to charge an upgrade price.

Well, if we go by your reasoning... what's it take to add a few little extra gadgets.... and THEN do like Adobe and charge?

Answer: Not much and Sony could have EASILY done it.

EDIT:
I'm not so sure what you're saying is true anyway. I just read on another site that they ARE adding some new features to the Vegas 64 bit. What they are I don't know.

My big question is I wonder if 8.0c and 8.1 64bit can live together on the same system?


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I'll bet they can coexist on the same system, and you'll probably want them to do so while you test out 8.1. Even so, 8c won't be "supported" on 64-bit windows, and 8.1 won't run on 32-bit windows

I'll also bet they do the same numbering with 9.0 and 9.1 to distinguish the 32bit and 64bit versions.

Rob

It's not that simple. If 8.1 is like other 64 bit video software (for example, VirtualDub), it can only utilize 64 bit libraries and that doesn't mean just DLLs, but also audio and video codecs. For example, at the moment, Cineform V3.x is not available in a 64 bit version to my knowledge, so you wouldn't be able to use it with 64 bit Vegas. You will be limited to the 64 bit codecs (and also plug-ins, etc.) that come packaged with 8.1 (or with Vista, like WMV) and the few 64 bit codecs that are available as either freeware or for sale.

Further, 8.0c should run perfectly fine on Vista x64, whether it's "supported" or not. Well, no worse than 8.0b, I hope. I strongly recommend that anyone thinking of downloading 8.1, also keep 8.0b or upgrade to 8.0c.

You're absolutely right, the 64-bit version of VirtualDub can only "see" 64-bit codecs. The Lagarith codec is available in a 64-bit version, but not many other codecs. I'm hoping that Vegas Pro v8.1 will come with a 64-bit version of Cineform. I can just imagine the flood of hate mail on this forum if it doesn't.

Yes, you'll need the 64-bit versions of codecs, but Adobe will ensure that Cineform has a 64-bit version of ProspectHD and 4k for the 64-bit release of CS4. So we'll be just fine, but it will be through sheer coincidence, and thanks to Adobe, not SCS.

yawn!
not surprised to see that the vegas-ites are at it again.
64-bit will not run any faster than 32-bit. In fact, recent benchmarking of content generating 64-bit apps against 32-bit versions, showed the 32 bit versions to be considerably faster...
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2280814,00.asp

Bill,

Have you seen 64 bit Vegas in action on a properly spec'd machine? 64 bit widens the bottleneck.

j razz

well, my own experience with killing the page file and using 64bit Vista with 6+ gigs of ram is that it's not a hit in anyway, and it's given me a faster machine.

That alone would make me want to go there.

my .02

Dave

"well, my own experience with killing the page file and using 64bit Vista with 6+ gigs of ram is that it's not a hit in anyway, and it's given me a faster machine."

I would agree to that I'm running the same as you but with 2 more gigs of ram.... very stable and faster.

Still I don't expect Vegas64 to run at all faster than Vegas 32. I don't think that's the main intent in the first place. I believe the main intent was to 'WIDEN' the channel so a larger volume of water flows so to speak. The Increased memory SHOULD translate into smoother, more detailed playback and general time line operations.

I think that if there are those who expect whopping increases in things like rendering speeds..... prepare to be disappointed.

Jabloom sez: It's not that simple. If 8.1 is like other 64 bit video software (for example, VirtualDub), it can only utilize 64 bit libraries and that doesn't mean just DLLs, but also audio and video codecs.

Kind of supports my point. If 8.1 needs 64-bit codecs then you'll need a copy of 32-bit Vegas to fill in the gaps.

Definitely need a frame server for both.

Rob

Well, unfortunately (or fortunately maybe) it appears that 8.1 will not be a true 64 bit program. Look here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=932165

I got curious and asked David Newman of Cineform about whether they were working on 64 bit Cineform codecs and he basically responded that Vegas 64 bit will still use the 32 bit VFW interface (instead of DirectShow), so although 8.1 will be able to access larger amounts of RAM, a lot of the guts of the program will still be 32 bit.

I thought that the whole "free" release of 8.1 with not even a hint of a closed beta for the 64 bit version was kind of sketchy. I will remain open-minded, until I see what 8.1 really does, but I'm losing interest as we speak. But hey, how about that Nikon D90 and the similar Canon SLR that is supposedly being unveiled next week? There's always good news around in the digital cam industry.

Hmm, I didn't get the newsletter.

Now that I check, the last newsletter I got was September 2007.
It's ticked off that I want the newsletter in my preferences and it is not part of my spam catcher in Firefox.

What do I have to do other than that to get it?
Anyone know what to do?

I like Sony. They have been more than fair with their pricing based on what was being released. I picked the right software in 2003. Being in my mid 50's I am no longer interested in beta testing or jumping on the leading edge. I will probably take up high def next year and most likely 64bit late 2009. I might even enjoy listening to the early adopters whine and cry during the next several months. However, thanks to your efforts my life is better. Vegas Pro 8 and SD is rock solid for me and I have no high def business right now so it's cool. Plus I like Vista. No real problems but I had to shut off aero in order to have Vegas color selection work with a range. No big deal.

Okay, I read the DVinfo thread. Hmph! We'll have to wait and see.

Rob

Before I mistakenly install 8.1, what OS must I have for it to work properly?

Vista- a 64 bit flavor.

j razz